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1911 1912 1915 Florins Melt Help

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I bought an auction Lot of silver florins in a local auction offered at silver melt value, total is 6 troy oz asw

turns out there was 2 pieces of 1911, 2 pieces of 1912 & one 1915H

but the five coins are all in G to VG, and the krauss book only starts at grade F at US$27 (my Krauss is 1998 issue)

does that mean if the grade is below F in Krauss it is then automatic at silver melt value? (now 0.3363 asw is about US$11 melt)

or a little above melt, say $15 each?

thanks, these gradings can become confusing

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 Posted 10/30/2012  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrison2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How about some photos?

I would probably trust ebay for real-world values for coins like those.
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It would depend just how worn they are, but the 1915H was a reasonably low mintage and would probably have a premium. The 1911 and 1912 weren't exactly high mintages either.
My McDonald's catalogue (a local publication) gives the values for VG 1911 and 1912 as $38AUD and for VG 1915H $50AUD.
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If they are such low grade I doubt there would be any premium on spot.
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Post a couple of scans/pics and we can give you a definitive answer
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If they are such low grade I doubt there would be any premium on spot.


Maybe. I know the last time I was at a dealer's the first few pages of their folder were almost all VG.
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thanks all! I will get the pictures uploaded soonest
Thanks Mr T, prices you mentioned are interesting, anything above melt is interesting as I won the bid at 60% off melt, the lot owner probably thought there would be a bid fight at such a low tipo, I was expecting it too, turns out I got lucky.. no one else was listening LoL!
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This is the florin 1912, best picture I could come up with..


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here's the 1911 florin, my camera is out, so I'm using the web camera, not so good but hopefully visible details

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and here's another 1912, am going to get a better camera, hopefully soonest

Thanks for grading!


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the other two of the five, included in the 6oz scrap silver lot, are higher grades so easier to tag as vg
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I think you basically have melt value there. About $10-12 each on ebay probably. That shouldnt deter you from keeping them as theyre still old coins that deserve a place in history. Imagine where theyve been!
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I think that the ADVANCE AUSTRALIA may need to be fully legible for them to be VG but they're not too bad.
I've seen gap-fillers with almost nothing left of ONE FLORIN - TWO SHILLINGS.
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Those poor old soldiers would grade good imo, they are selling up to $20 on oz ebay , give them a good home
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 Posted 11/04/2012  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
good imo


I got lost bellyflorin, somewhere..what is "imo"?



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in my opinion (IMO)

You may also see IMHO on the forum quite a bit. The H stands for humble.
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