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If You Were A Coin Grader, What Would You Grade...

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 Posted 03/25/2007  01:03 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add landslide_71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi All,

newbie question....I've purchased some miscellaneous coin lots
of separated mint proofs that still in the cellophane wrappers. What grade could I typically expect if I were to get them slabbed and submitted to a grading service?

thanks in advance!

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 Posted 03/25/2007  02:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Usuually it's cheaper to buy them slabbed on ebay instead of you sending them in. Not only do you have postage fees, slabbing fees to worry about but as well as the time you must spend to send them.
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 Posted 03/25/2007  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If they're in cellophane, I would assume that means that they are relatively old? Not sure when they started with the hard plastic for the proofs. Regardless, you can always post pics here and let the folks give a shot at grading. I really don't see many proofs posted here in the grading section, so why not give it a shot.

As for the potential grade, I think it may depend on the age? If I understand correctly, the mint has been getting better and better at their quality control, so newer sets will probably yield a minimum PF67 grade, but I don't honestly know about the older sets. I'm sure some long time collectors may be able to help you better than I.

What were the dates you were considering to get slabbed, and pics would help.
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 Posted 03/25/2007  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add madspec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It sounds to me that you have mint sets cut apart since you said it was "miscellaneous coin lots of separated mint proofs that still in the cellophane wrappers"
What are the years of the coins? That would give us a better idea on the coins.

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 Posted 03/25/2007  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen these lots on ebay. Is that where you purchased these? If so, you can be pretty sure that these coins have been picked over for any that would be worth sending in. I hope that I'm wrong, but don't be surprised.

Please post a list of the coins that you think might be worth grading.
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 Posted 03/25/2007  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
It sounds to me that you have mint sets cut apart


That's what I was trying to get at Madspec. After I reread my post, I see that I didn't clarify, so I hope I didn't confuse landslide. I know the recent proof sets come in hard plastic holders, but I don't know what year they started it?

I agree with Susan as well. Unfortunately, I think most of these coins have been picked through, including the "unopened" mint sets that are sold there....
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 Posted 03/25/2007  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add madspec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the last year of the flat pack proof sets was 1964, as the special mint sets came out in hard plastic.

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 Posted 03/25/2007  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add landslide_71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi to All,

yes, these are ebay items, the seller has a good feedback. It looks like
he/she's cutting the proof sets apart but they are still sealed. As for the years, they are all mixed 70's-2006.

Item number: 110105685728

thanks all
pete

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 Posted 03/25/2007  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Landslide, just stopping in again to give you some more info. I checked the ebay number you provided. This seller is listing mint sets, not proof sets. You can look on the left side of the forum in the "glossary" here to learn the difference, as it would take a little bit to write up. Bottom line, proof coins are struck from specially prepared/polished dies along with other variations such as striking pressure etc, and usually result in a much more detailed strike.

That being said, these are "mint" sets which are uncirculated coins. These are not struck on the same dies that the proofs are struck. While you can probably get some decent coins in decent mint state levels, as was mentioned earlier, the added value coins such as "full bell lines" and Full steps" coins will be hard to find in lots like this.
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 Posted 03/26/2007  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its possible to find extremely nice coins in these type auctions, are they slab material ,IMO no ,but them IMO very few coins should be slabbed,, but that for a different conversation.

Keep in mind that there is a collector for every grade of coin out there , from the very worn PO-1 to the MS-69's and all points in between .

In answer to the question , slabbing is a waste of money for common date modern coinage.

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