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Believe that is nothing more than a dug coin.....probably from a grave robber.
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Definitely a wild assumption, but as for grave robbing not likely. Doesn't look weathered enough to have spent anytime in the ground. Not only a wild assumption, but also more than likely a false story.
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junk and some idiots bidding LOL
Retired USAF 1983-2003
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Ya definitely a junk coin, wouldnt waste my money on it.
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I think it looks a lot like a modern dug zinclon, which it obviously is not.
Just out of curiosity, how many of you have actually seen a coin damaged by shrapnal? 32 years in the Army, Reserve, and now Guard, and I can't recall seeing a single one. And because I have not, I'm not willing to call malarky on it.
Though, I admit it is not what I would expect.
Still though, fair is fair, unless you have seen a number of coins with shrapnal damage from, not just any way, but specifically the Civil War; I just don't see how anyone can give an informed opinion.
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I just saw another auction by the same seller and the description in just about all of the seller's auctions say "RARE CIVIL WAR BATTLEFIELD RELIC / ARTIFACT"...
On a side note, I recently saw a Pawn Stars episode a while back in which a guy brought a CSA belt buckle in w/ a .38 caliber bullet stuck in it. The guy that Rick called to look at it came in and verified that it was a FAKE. The buckle itself wasn't quite right...
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It could have been damaged by anything.
If this was shrapnel, I would think it would be bent and ragged in the fields as well.
Yeah, wild assumption.
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Having a reference to the Civil War brings some "romance" & history to the coin/artifact being sold, even if it isn't true. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't "put it all together" in situations like what is being offered here  |
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First, I agree, that IN MY OPINION, this is hype. But I, and I admit this, play the devil's advocate all the time. Part of the training that goes on with being either a Detective or Interviewer/Interrogator; both of which I have professed. As I said earlier, I have spent 32 years in the Army. I have seen active service in Central America, Grenada, Desert Shield/Storm, and OIF3(Iraq). I can tell you right now there is a world of difference between bullet damage and shrapnal damage. Shrapnel damage can, but rarely does, mimic bullet damage. Shrapnel damage is itself a bit misleading as it includes blast, fire and heat damage associated with the initial Artillery/Grenade/rocket/ect burst. Lots and lots and lots of really weird things happen during such an event. I have seen things that I will not describe on a family forum. Suffice to say that I have seen things that were whole and undisturbed on one side completely destroyed on the other. I have seen neat round holes ( from canister) and jagged edges; not all them bent or twisted, though that is the norm. It all has to do with heat, velocity, materials, time and distance from the explosion. Which itself can be of several different types. You have no idea of all the strange, strange things that can happen in an explosion. I have seen hundreds of shrapnel damaged objects in my life, and I have seen damage like the damage exhibited on that coin, though on a much larger scale. As a trained Detective, and Engineer, I understand that there are truly "1 in a million" events. I am reminded of a Mythbusters episode where they tried to duplicate an "urban legend" regarding an explosion and a falling airman. At the end of the experiment they declared the myth "busted". However at the end of the show they admitted that they incident really happened. I love that show but you can not disprove a "one in a million event" based on a single experiment. You need to duplicate that experiment "a million times" in order to disprove it. And in any event you can never disprove an actual happening. Just my Two Cents ( buy not HIS Two Cents!). |
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jmkendall, Thank you for your service to our country. I guess the biggest beef I have is that there is absolutely NO way for the seller to know w/ any certainty what happened to that coin. I get irritated when some sellers use whatever mumbo-jumbo they can come up w/ to hook unsuspecting buyers. To me, that not a positive endorsement towards Numismatics... |
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As Dave H pointed out, the seller is obviously using the Civil War and "romance" here, to sell this coin. Just wrong.
The coin is what it is. Let it sell itself.
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The truth is, I actually agree with you guys. And that fact that his other ads are also misleading gives him no credibility in my book.
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