I am unsure where to put this tread. It seems we have a problem with sellers that not only over grade the coins they are selling. They are also playing games with E Bay policies. I just had a run in with 1 seller.
http://myworld.ebay.com/jkli3388?_t...047675.l2559This seller has a few stage names that he lists in some of his past sales. 1 Of them I think is correct. Here is one screen name that I am fairly sure it was him "coins4u*nme" it has the same type of goods as well as a few other things that match out with this seller.
I bought a coin listed as an 1889 O Vam-20a Hot 50... with a make an offer. "Original idem number"
271086943861 I knew the seller was new but we all have to start somewhere. I thought I would be protected by the buyer's protection and I thought I saw wreath clashing over the head. I made an offer and it was taken. I paid for it with-in 5 min time. The seller refunded me my money and re-listed the coin next listing number "Same Coin"
271087736189.
I told the guy to just forget it as he re-listed the coin. He said I own it and billed me thought Pay Pal. I paid for it and then noticed that the coin was not even an O Mint marked coin. I E-mailed the seller and told him not to bother sending the coin if it did not have an O Mint Mark as it would not be as listed. "He sent it anyway" I then got the coin and sent it right back Insured and with Tracking. The seller gets it back and then Re-listed the coin Idem Number
271097174577.
I have seen a few sellers that make errors on what
VAM a coin is, but in this case not only is the seller aware that its wrong... he is using catch names to over hype his sales. ie: Top 100, Hot 50 and so on.
The Point to this post
This seller understands E-Bay better them most. I found out that even with me buying the coin on E-Bay and then paying it though Pay Pal. That if a seller refunds you and them just re bills you...You Cant post a claim against the seller.
This seller has e-mailed me though my Pay Pal address 3 times using language that is not suitable for this site. He said the coin came back damaged and then that the coin was broken out of its "Do it yourself Slab" then claimed my fingerprints where on the coin. Then the coin gets re-posted on E-Bay.
Anyway I have every E-Mail from this guy. On the last one well here they are. My point is "Never" pay for something on E-Bay if the seller bills you! Un-less you know the seller very well. You can get your funds back but it takes effort and E-Bays Buyers Protection is no longer in play.
The offer I made this seller was Just refund me and I will leave No Feedback....Mess around and the gloves come off so to speak...
MY RESPONCE TO HIS E_MAIL BELOW
The reference as to the SEALS was I told him to hold onto the finger prints on the coin as they where not mine, and that my prints are on file with the FBI,NSA and the US Navy.
LOL I was never a SEAL, I do know that they are stage names I also know much
more. I think 1 of the names is correct but I just forwarded the names and
listings to E-Bay as well as the 3 Idem numbers of this coin. Both Pay Pal and
E-bay have all the E-mails from here and E-Bay. You can change your screen name
many times but the acct name and address is something they always have.
As far as being human well from my side of this transaction it looks "not so
Good". I told you just to refund my money and I would "not leave any feed back"
That's fair in my book when a seller makes an error in his listing, in this case
its not an Error...as you know this coin is not what you have it re-listed as.
From my side of this table
1st new user acct
2nd idem paid for ,them idem is re listed
3rd told I own the idem after a refund is made and after the same idem is
re listed by the seller
4th E-mail you and told you that if the coin was not an 1889 O mint coin as
listed then do not send it as it was not as listed.
5th sent a 1889 P coin anyway
6th seller knows said coin its not a Hot 50 coin yet still has it listed as
one, and then re-lists it again as one.
7th will not communicate though E-Bays mail system
The list could continue but there is no need too. Telling me the coin case was
opened or damages or has my finger prints on it is just a game. You and I both
know that that not true. I will get my money back as you just confirmed what I
told Pay Pal. Your name will get flagged and this did not need to happen. All
you had to do is refund this sale with out the BS as as you just stated above
you knew that this coin was not an 1889 O even.
---- Tyler Klingensmith <Seller> wrote:
> all you had to do was an act like a normal human being and none of this
> would be going on. I do understand you received the wrong product, but like
> Pay Pal says I have 14 days to refund the money in since you were going to
> act like this I'm going to wait the 14 days. you will have your money and I
> don't care what you do about any of them because they are fake names as you
> research the sellers you will not even see anything under the names, so you
> will have your money by the 12th and that is the bottom line.
> thank you,
> James
> and by the way I wouldn't answer your call if you did try to call me again
> and I don't care if your Navy SEALs an FBI agent org m************
> President Obama, I'm going to do what I'm going to do.
Ø On Nov 5, 2012 10:49 AM, <Buyer> wrote:
Ø "he had sent his phone number in his e-mail---I deleted it"
>
Posted 11/07/2012 2:17 pm
