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My 1912-S Lincoln Wheat Penny

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Hi folks,
Further to my relentless sorting and grading job, I came across one of these.
Only thing is, it has a build up of crud on one of the sides. The other side, whilst not in A1 condition, is fine.
My question would be whether or not this example is valuable enough not to even touch the crud, or should an attempt be made at clearing it off?
Your thoughts and suggestions are much appreciated...

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 Posted 11/13/2012  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add reupman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it could be real nice! if it were my find it would go into a jar with lid containing nail polish remover for 1 week then all that crud should be gone then a good long soak in mineral oil and you might just have found some good $
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That might be too much. Maybe just acetone and a wooden toothpick?
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 Posted 11/13/2012  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paul g to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thank you. Does acetone not clean up the coin which is so abhorred by collectors? It won't come out looking all shiny will it?
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would go into a jar with lid containing nail polish remover for 1 week
I would not do that. While nail polish remover may contain acetone (not all do), the certainly do contain other things that may or may not damage a coin.

BadThad always recommends following the polarity ladder: water, acetone, xylene. One at a time, in that order. Once the crud is gone, stop.


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Does acetone not clean up the coin which is so abhorred by collectors? It won't come out looking all shiny will it?
You may want to read this experiment first...

https://goccf.com/t/129677

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A toothpick can leave a nasty scratch. I've heard that porcupine quills are safe but I haven't tried that so I can't say for sure.

If you use anything be sure it is distilled water and pure acetone from a hardware store.

You may want to find a gunky coin from your pocket change to practice on first. That's how I know a toothpick will scratch a coin.

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 Posted 11/13/2012  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scropper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you don't push on the metal but rather just the crud, a toothpick shouldn't hurt. You have to be very careful though. I second jbuck - that a week in nail polish remover is too much.

As always be VERY careful when working with acetone.
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 Posted 11/13/2012  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paul g to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will give it a try, for sure, I'll pick up some acetone tomorrow ( I used to work in a wafer fab and there was literally GALLONS I could have had!)

I wonder, then if IPA would be any good, Acetone is basically oxidised IPA. I have a good source of IPA. Interestingly, to make the ketone acetone, rather than oxidising the IPA, it can be done the other way round by dehydrogenising(same end result) and the best catalyst for that is copper. I wonder if the reaction from the copper penny might produce different/better results in the cleaning process?
Interesting......

Anyway, thanks for your advice, I take it the Penny is worth enough to bother with this? I would like to preserve it for when I might have kids myself one day!
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Paul g....the 1912s is a really good date...for sure worth saving for the kids!!! looking forward to hearing how the restoration goes!
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If you can't get the crud off, just remember that it adds dimension and character.
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 Posted 11/14/2012  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paul g to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I have it soaking in DI-ill leave it an hour and see if it loosens off....
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...then I'm gonna try 40% H2O2
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 Posted 11/14/2012  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matchbox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Leave it like it is. It gives the coin character. When I'm 100 years old I'll be covered in crud too.

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 Posted 11/14/2012  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jram to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would try experimenting with other coins first to make sure you get yor desired outcome.
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I am, sorry, I never made clear I was doing it with an old coin with similar gunk on it, an old farthing. Soaked it, froze it, defrosted it. Didn't ping off. It's now in some peroxide....
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 Posted 11/15/2012  2:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paul g to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
....H2O2 stripped it clean, acetone next....
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