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Yellow Toned 1$ Bill

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 Posted 12/09/2012  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garys64wildcat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Buddy, Bryan and all who gave input about these stange phenomenas as to how these got their orange color.

I hope we can find out the truth. There must be something about the 69 series notes, and no other series or denominations. It has the same even color, and not distorted as bleaching would do. It would bleed through to the obverse. I have another 69 series, and also will try a later series, that I will set on the window sill to check out Buddys idea. Not sure how long it will take.

Always open to any new ideas.

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 Posted 12/09/2012  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like this one was treated with an acid of some type. I've also seen treated notes with a light blue back on them.
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 Posted 12/09/2012  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
garys64wildcat, I think it's great that you're going to try an experiment but don't forget the most important part --applying for a research grant.



Seriously, before and after photos, some notes about the length of exposure, ....it will be welcome information for anybody who ever finds another one of those discolored notes.
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 Posted 12/09/2012  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Badger Mint to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I remember reading about these notes in the mid 70's. Although I don't remember what chemicals were used, the green ink on the back of a dollar bill can be treated to remove either its blue component or its yellow component giving you a yellow back or a blue back. The ink on the front remains unaffected. My vote is for post printing damage.
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 Posted 12/10/2012  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Badger Mint I think that's really interesting. I haven't found anything about it -- although I will admit that I haven't made a serious search effort so far.

But it seems so odd that the bills would have one type of ink on one side and a different type of ink on the other. Perhaps they are the result of a test of a new ink.

If it requires a chemical to remove the 'new' ink, then I wonder if it is something common that might be in laundry detergent or some other run of the mill chemical that a dollar might be exposed to.
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 Posted 12/13/2012  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialjohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I specialize in U.S. Currency errors but not that long - only heard of bleach. Say taking a note covering the front and exposing the back to bleach fumes for a period of time would cause this yellowing. Sometimes if you smell the note ... pools or spas have test chemicals ... just curious what Chlorine levels are retained in this note. You could do a $75 XRF for trace chlorine test.

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John,
I have had this note since the 1970`s so not much smell to it. Whats a XRF test and who does them? I just got my interest in old coins and bills back after many years and found this forum and it seemed to have a good following of collectors with alot of good infomation and this bill was good one to ask about.
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XRF - X-Ray Fluorescence. You just need to locate your neighborhood X-ray fluorescence spectrometer owner and ask him for help.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-ray_fluorescence

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That's not a bad idea.

Try a university or museum. You never know...some grad student could be looking for a project and they all have to publish....

All right that might be a bit far-fetched, but you could ask. The worst they can do is say 'no'.

The manufacturer might do it for an acknowledgement in an article...maybe.

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 Posted 12/14/2012  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mackwork to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good point Buddy. If there's a university nearby they might help. as you said it could be something they could publish.
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 Posted 12/18/2012  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garys64wildcat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Mackwork, Buddy and all who replied,
Now the hunt goes on..I presume when I find one of these XRF machines that I would take a similar bill of the same series and compare the chemical analysis of the two bills and maybe one of a newer series also.
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 Posted 12/18/2012  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mackwork to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That would make sense. The non-yellowed bills would be the control against which to measure any chemical differences in the yellowed note.
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 Posted 09/19/2013  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I was at the table of a paper money dealer at the Philadelphia Whitman show today, a citizen came up with a dollar in hand to ask the dealer if the yellow back was anything of interest. I recalled this thread, and asked if it might be a 1969. It was.
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 Posted 09/19/2013  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Bill Collector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I first seen that bill I thought it was from the sun so I put a $ 1.00 bill on a window sill in direct sun light,
left it there for about a year, got nothing, still just as green as when I put it there. But it wasn't a 1969, the closest year I had was a 1977.
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 Posted 09/21/2013  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinDan98 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is interesting....
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