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I have my PCGS voucher for eight submissions and I am sending in seven ANACS and one NGC. I have show them all at one time or another here and they are in their original (to me) slabs; These coins represent (most of) the non-PCGS or NGC in my 7070 collection that I feel would make it or exceed the original grade. What's the worse thing that can happen?...they (should) get returned in the skin that they are in. 1807/6 Large 7 Large Cent ANACS F12  1833 Large Cent ANACS VF25  1835 Half Cent ANACS XF40  1863 Indian cent ANACS MS62  1888 Morgan dollar ANACS MS63PL  1902 Barber dime ANACS AU55  1917 SLQ Type I ANACS MS63FH  1935 Texas Commemorative NGC MS64  I figured that I would use the Crossover method of submittal since I only have four raw coins that I am going to have slabbed. Here is the breakdown on the cost;  I figure for $37.95 to bring 'em back (plus approx. $29.95 to send 'em Registered) beats the voucher value of $240...and a 15 Day turn around. Edited by oih82w8
12/03/2012 4:12 pm
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Good luck, cant wait to see how they turn out
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 Some Very Nice Coins, as Well. |
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whats the point of sending in the NGC one?
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Every time I talk about a crossover to PCGS I always get at least 1 "what's the point comment". Because I want to! Lol!! I have had luck with the older ANACS slabs crossing at the same grade and had a couple NGC slabbed coins upgrade a full point. I hope you have the same luck if not better. I'm rooting for ya!!
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Ok walk me through this, because I have heard both. What is the best way to send in coins for crossover.
Should I break them out of the slabs so they can be graded from scratch. Or send them in the slabs so the grader can have a starting point. Is there a service where they will keep the grade it is at but only grade it higher if it merits ?
How much would it stink if you send in a MS69 to crossover only to have it come back as a MS68 in a new holder.
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for me, I see no need in crossing over, I don't drink the kool aid. I'm happy with the coins the way they are, if I even wanted an inkling that they would upgrade, I'd CAC them instead. a CAC gold sticker is worth more than the same coin with a higher grade
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Correct me if I am wrong. CAC only do PCGS and NGC. Right?
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The 1863 looks overstamped
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My best results were sending them in still in the slabs. But, I've heard a lot of folks swear to doing it both ways and getting better results. All I can attest to is the way I did it.
Koop aid drinker or not, I've never had so many people be so concerned with how I spend my own money until I start talking about PCGS crossovers.
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Should I break them out of the slabs so they can be graded from scratch. Or send them in the slabs so the grader can have a starting point. Is there a service where they will keep the grade it is at but only grade it higher if it merits ? Depends what the slab is, if its ANACS or NGC and you think it was graded correctly I would keep it in the slab. If its some no name company break it out for sure, also if you think it was severely undergraded break it out regardless. They may raise it a point or two max but they will be biased seeing the lower grade if its way off. As long as it isn't a perfect 70 you can specify that they only cross it over if it gets the same grade to prevent getting a lower grade in the pcgs holder Quote:
CAC only do PCGS and NGC. Right? Correct, they only take PCGS and NGC coins and that doesn't look like it will be changing anytime soon. |
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Most of us should submit in the original slab assuming it's an NGC, ANACS, or ICG holder. And it's only a "crossover" if you send it in still in the holder. Otherwise it's raw.
I have specified lower minimum grades sometimes. For example, my coin is an ANACS XF45 but I would accept an XF40 grade from PCGS. You can note this on the submission form.
You can also, "Cross at any grade" which risks a larger downgrade.
The old, small ANACS slabs do seem to have the best crossover rate (at the same grade).
PCGS is tough on NGC holdered coins that are attempted to cross "at grade".
Lastly, PCGS just announced price increases for next year. They have had a tough year with revenue and stock price dropping hard.
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whats the point of sending in the NGC one?I only have seven ANACS coins to submit and the Texas Commem has the best shot at crossing, and I don't want to waste the eighth coin to submit. The 1863 looks overstampedThere is some shift doubling on the reverse, mainly the left side of he shield. I did not notice on the front...too late they are packed up and ready to go to the post tomorrow. Correct me if I am wrong. CAC only do PCGS and NGC. Right?PCGS and NGC are the only ones that I have seen with CAC stickers.  
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12/03/2012 11:15 pm
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Your decision is made but I would not have bothered to cross these coins. I don't think the potential value increase for getting them into PCGS plastic would justify the expense and effort. I would instead assemble a set of raw coins to submit (assuming you are collecting/purchasing raw pieces!). I think it is quite unlikely PCGS will award any upgrades to these pieces. Regardless of their official policy I think they are affected by the existing grade on the slab and they would resist any admission that their standards are less strict than ANACS.
Finally, those very early ANACS slabs with the "AB1234" serial number format are very cool and I would not cross such a coin unless I felt there was a big upgrade potential. In that case, I would crack it out myself and submit raw.
Just my opinion and I'll be happy to be proven wrong when (hopefully!) you get good results from your submission. Please share whatever happens with us!
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Jaobler I agree seeing the grade makes them less likely to upgrade. If I remember correctly though hes doing a PCGS 7070 so I dont think his reasons are financial. With the vouchers though even the same grades could be worth the minimal cost hes paying if they do cross
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I hope he isn't doing a pcgs 7070 as he has many great NGC coins
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