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Forum Mom
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Does anyone here know of any books to help identify whether a coin has been cleaned? I always go on experience and have done very well, but I have someone asking me to recommend a book so that they can identify it for themselves. Thanks for any responses. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would agree that experience is the key, but no matter how experienced, there are some bound to get by. As I am sure is the case with most, it is the dipped ones that are hard to tell. The way I have learned is somebody I deal with on a regular basis goes by the "rip em, dip em, ship em". I have seen about every sort of coin cleaning method known and I know what to look for, but the hardest to detect is a simple dip on MS silver coins. But I know of no book that help picking out cleaned coins. In fact, I just got partially burned on a large seated deal. They were all toned nicely, some rainbow and did not give much of a thought about being cleaned. Once I got them back home and looked under higher power, about 90 of the 100 Seated dimes, quarters, and halves (all F-XF) all had hairlines under the toning. It was something that happened a long time ago, and retoned. Very hard to tell when they appear to have original color.
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Valued Member
United States
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Here is one I found for you Susan: Coin Chemistry: Including cleaning and Preservation by Weimar W. White Volume 1 and there is a volume 2 I think. Here is the link for the first one: http://www.amazon.com/Coin-Chemistr...p/0971392471 Hope this helps. Phoenix 8)
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Forum Mom
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Thanks a bunch, Phoenix.  I just ordered that book. I'll take a look at it and see if this would be helpful to my friend. I sent the link to this thread to him also, so he will see the responses for himself.
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Valued Member
United States
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Your welcome. From what I've heard it is a good book. Hope you like it. Phoenix 
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New Member
United States
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Susan, I realize I'm not answering the precise question asked, but...there is absolutely no substitute for having a knowledgeable dealer or collector show you HOW to properly examine coins under good light and to review/discuss them together. I will go a step further and note that the more coins that can be viewed, the better and suggest viewing a major auction (or two or three or more), if possible. It's free, allows for a large number and variety of coins to be viewed and can be a wonderful learning experience.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Susan referred me to this thread, & I also posted the same question on the thread about recommended coin books. Up to this point most of my coins were either from circulation or slabbed by the top 3 TPG's. I have started a type set and am looking at more raw coins, so I thought it would be a good idea to get a little more education. It's obvious when a coin has been harshly cleaned, it's the subtle things like dipping & retoning that are hard to determine. I think coinguy1's probably has the best idea, but it's not always possible for people that live in the sticks to get that kind of mentoring.
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New Member
United States
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Please feel free to forward images of coins that you want to know if they have been cleaned or not. Often, if a coin(edited for typo)has been lightly dipped it is impossible to know. Other times, clues can be seen, such as faint remnants of toning, splotches, re-toning effect, etc. I understand that, depending upon where one lives and whom he knows, it's not always practical to find a mentor and look at a large auction.
Edited by coinguy1 04/06/2007 09:25 am
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Moderator
 United States
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Question for experts on cleaning Once a coin has been cleaned- can it retain its value? Pre decimal day in Australia when a gal was a member of the girl Guides (Scouts) they were required to bring dues to the meeting. They were also expected to shine (polish) their coins. As some of these coins are now a little harder to come by. Will they still have collectible value even after being cleaned 50+ years ago? 
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New Member
United States
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Once a coin has been cleaned beyond a dipping and shows obvious evidence of that cleaning, it usually loses a good portion(though not all)of the value it had.
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