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(Artificially?) Toned ASE

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I don't believe this toning is natural, but it does look kinda cool.

Any ideas on how to get this effect?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Uncirculate...em51a4e45f3b
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Propane Torch.
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Propane Torch.


Exactly....disc placed in the center of the coin...coin torched..remove disk.Voila!

What makes it even more ridiculous is having the same "toning" on the reverse....think of what natural occurrence would create the same design on both sides....nothing
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This offering comes from a vendor who's Ebay-rated as "Top Rated Plus" and has over 250,000 ratings which are 100% positive. I'm definitely impressed!!
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his offering comes from a vendor who's Ebay-rated as "Top Rated Plus" and has over 250,000 ratings which are 100% positive. I'm definitely impressed!!


I can't seem to see the problem.
It still is a one ounce silver bullion (which looks nice).

Not that I'd buy this for anything over 40$, but I consider trying to make one myself.
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 Posted 12/10/2012  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, this coin was not torched and yes, there is a very natural occurrence that will cause similar toning on both sides- it is called bullseye album toning. I have a set of Silver Eagles in an old Littleton album and about half of them have toned over the years to some degree with several of the toned ones having a very similar bullseye color scheme(a couple ended up on the ugly side as well). SAEs tend to tone differently from 90% coinage silver, vivid blues and violets are typically prominent.
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I have found that most ASE's tone in different shades of bronze and some also have a blueish tint. I all my years of buying ans selling ASE's I have NEVER seen that demarcated with a consistent shade of blue from a NATURAL process...album coin or otherwise. It just screams doctored...but it is still worth spot (and a dip)

That said I do agree that he is a volume seller with great feedback ratings. He also makes no claims about the coin being naturally toned....just that it is genuine.

The question on this thread was about the toning of the coin not the seller.

Here's one from an honest seller....notice the color:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-1-Ounc...em19d7686643
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12/10/2012 1:43 pm
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Just to clarify---My post made no reference to any "problem." I just described the vendor's record and stated that I was impressed by it. The vendor has over a quarter of a million ratings and all those ratings are 100% positive. I think a record like that is a pretty rare thing, and I'm impressed.
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I think a record like that is a pretty rare thing, and I'm impressed.


Sorry for misinterpreting your post .
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If you like it, nothing wrong with trying it on bullion silver in my opinion. But I agree strongly with those calling that AT.
Not that I'm sure, I'm not a professional grader. It does have indication of holding spots, little blotches missing.

BTW-Just don't start doing it to classic coinage. :-)
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definitely a artificial toned coin.. Way you can tell that real toned coins dont have bright blue color like that.. Usually you only get that type of color from a lot of heat.. i.e. torch or oven
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definitely a artificial toned coin.. Way you can tell that real toned coins dont have bright blue color like that.. Usually you only get that type of color from a lot of heat.. i.e. torch or oven


I respectfully disagree with this statement. Coin silver (90%) I would agree, but .9993% Silver, that bright blue color is supposed to happen when it tarnishes. Not saying it is NT or AT, but there is a big difference between how coin silver and ASE's tone.

Erik
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12/11/2012 4:10 pm
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