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Help Con Or Not...is Ebay Burning My Wallet

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Please could someone tell me if this is a gold coin or silver and its value. Its prob a ducat from ferdinand.

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HELP ME PLEASE, I'm PANICKING.

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 Posted 12/30/2012  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please only post topic in one Forum. This is the proper Forum.
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I own one very similar, Hungary - silver - Madonna & Child?
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Looks like a Austro-Hungarian silver Denar,
http://www.medievalcoinage.com/gall...habsburg.htm
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In my experience - these are very common silver coins. At least no one has bothered faking them yet. (At least that I know of).
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I cannot speak to the coin or it's metal content, but as an ebay seller, I highly recommend doing the research *before* you make a purchase. Your concern seems to be whether or not it is gold or silver, perhaps looking for a good deal on gold. Same thing happens all the time with my sales and people trying to get good deals on silver without realizing that the item either isn't silver, or has a lower silver content than they thought.

Always, always, always do the research prior.

If I'm way off the mark I apologize, but that's the general gist of what I'm getting with your inquiries.
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Obviously I'm an idiot and a novice. The item description was un researched metal detector find...duh I got it for £40 quid so no major disaster if it isn't valuable...just humiliating.

Are those pics of a silver coin or gold one. Thats the question. Is it worth £40?

Thanks for the help.
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I can't help you with the coin but can say we ALL have been there at some point and time so don't beat yourself up too much; just try to learn from this experience.
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Far from it. We have all been there

I'm almost positive it's silver. All Denars are to my knowledge.
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There are few ebay listings that indicates the price. Here is one with catalog information,
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1563-Hungar...251186035933
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Hungary made gold ducats as well as silver denars, but the designs were different. The gold ducats of the mind-1500s did not have the shield on them, so this is definitely a silver denar.

Is it worth £40? That's probably a little steep, though this coin is in fairly nice condition. US$10 to $30 seems to be a more typical going rate.
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In general, as others have said, these coins are common and can be picked up for £10 - £30. However this is a particually nice one so I'd put it at the upper end of that scale - if it's a rare date it might even be more. While you probably have overpaid a small amount (a few pounds) you now have a really nice example of that particular coin. If there is to be any increase in value over time - these top quality coins are where it's at, so in some respects you have chosen wisely.
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 Posted 12/31/2012  04:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Normanity to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it possible for a silver coin to look so much like a gold one? If it if how did the seller do that?
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If the picture is taken with a yellow-coloured light, everything will look yellower - and silver can look kind-of goldish. That appears to be the case here. For example, I would assume the yellowish-coloured background grid is actually white.

So I did a bit of fooling around with the colour balance, to make the background look whiter. This is probably closer to how it looks in hand:

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I'm not very experienced with colour image manipulation; I'm sure others could make a much better effort of "cleaning up" the sellers pics. Of course, if someone was deliberately trying to deceive, they could manipulate a picture the other way, too, to make it look even more golden.
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so how do I find out where it was minted and if its a rare date on the coin?

I really appreciate the help.
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