Rare Error Mule 2011 Toonie Some One Help Is This Good

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kijiji2012 Valued Member Canada 54 Posts	Posted 01/07/2013 12:17 pm so I got this in my change from the bank, is this an error? or some ones doing, and what are the marks? what would be a high end value to this coin Edited by kijiji2012 01/07/2013 5:00 pm Report this Post to the Staff

SPP-Ottawa Moderator Canada 10458 Posts	Posted 01/07/2013 12:47 pm The coin was partially pressed in a vice, the 'teeth' of the vise jaws have been imparted onto the coin (i.e., post mint damage). Your coin is worth exactly two dollars. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer Content of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_US My eBay store Report this Post to the Staff
kijiji2012 Valued Member Canada 54 Posts	Posted 01/07/2013 1:28 pm any body else? I have looked at many of vice's and I dont think this was done that way, or I would not have wasted my time posting this thank you for looking, anything is posable , vice are teeth not little X's, but iam not sure Report this Post to the Staff
DBM Pillar of the Community Canada 9865 Posts	Posted 01/07/2013 1:37 pm Not a mint error.Garage job as previously stated. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website Report this Post to the Staff
kijiji2012 Valued Member Canada 54 Posts	Posted 01/07/2013 1:39 pm ok then so we have nothing, thank you all Report this Post to the Staff
canuck1us Pillar of the Community United States 1002 Posts	Posted 01/07/2013 1:46 pm I think the vice explanation is probably correct. Same on both sides, like it was being held in the grip. See photo of quick google search for vice image. Report this Post to the Staff
kijiji2012 Valued Member Canada 54 Posts	Posted 01/07/2013 2:01 pm yes that looks like it but its the size, teeth on a vice are to bid and not square? Report this Post to the Staff
darryldarryl Pillar of the Community Canada 2426 Posts	Posted 01/07/2013 2:41 pm vise job! Report this Post to the Staff
Dave H Pillar of the Community United States 1436 Posts	Posted 01/07/2013 2:49 pm to the CCF. It's definitely PMD whether caused by actual vise jaws or something else... it was definitely squeezed between something Report this Post to the Staff
SPP-Ottawa Moderator Canada 10458 Posts	Posted 01/07/2013 4:12 pm I don't think you will find anyone here to validate your ridiculous ebay listing. http://www.ebay.com/itm/221174853095 What possible element of the collar die or obverse and reverse dies, or a blank planchet, could possibly impart that image on both sides of that coin? At least four very knowledgeable collectors of errors have all given you a perfectly reasonable answer that you cannot accept. Why not? Because you know how the collar die and ejection process works for two-dollar strikes more than the error collecting community? Hardly, because if you really knew errors, then you would know the definition of a 'mule' and how it applies to numismatics (cf., title of your thread). Yes, it has been one of those days at work... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer Content of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_US My eBay store Edited by SPP-Ottawa 01/07/2013 4:22 pm Report this Post to the Staff
trout1105 Pillar of the Community Australia 7096 Posts	Posted 01/07/2013 4:41 pm kijiji2012 I have emailed you via your ebay listing, I have also reported it to ebay. You asked about this coin here and was given a definite assessment by eminent error experts. You chose to ignore the fact that this is simply a PMD issue and listed this for $500 on ebay. NO I didn't have a bad day at work, I am always this honest and tactless when it comes to ebay scammers Report this Post to the Staff
OddCoins Valued Member Canada 271 Posts	Posted 01/07/2013 4:42 pm No, you don't have 'nothing.' You have either an interesting conversation piece, or two dollars. However, you certainly don't have a mint error. It is completely impossible for an error like that to exist. The vice teeth shown in Canuck's picture fit the bill. You can get a smaller vice, I'm sure. Maybe even pliers? Report this Post to the Staff
OddCoins Valued Member Canada 271 Posts	Posted 01/07/2013 4:43 pm Why is it a private listing? Doesn't that stop most buyers from bidding on it? Not that it matters, it'll be gone soon anyway. Report this listing, IT'S A FAKE! Report this Post to the Staff
OddCoins Valued Member Canada 271 Posts	Posted 01/07/2013 4:48 pm WOW! He ended the listing! He ended the listing 3 to 4 minutes ago, because I viewed it before I posted. Sorry to post three times in a row, but these SCAMMERS get me so fired up... ! Report this Post to the Staff
kijiji2012 Valued Member Canada 54 Posts	Posted 01/07/2013 4:48 pm i did not ignore it and post it big month if you read the time frame, and it has been remove by me from ebay, due to all the answer on here I would not sell it if its not real, you are rude! Report this Post to the Staff
canuck1us Pillar of the Community United States 1002 Posts	Posted 01/07/2013 4:49 pm For a discussion on one of his prior "error" listings: https://goccf.com/t/137446 Report this Post to the Staff
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