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School Me Please...1836-39 Reeded Half

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 Posted 01/09/2013  11:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ron_CA to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am trying to figure out what a reeded edge looks like. Is it the same as the lettered edge without the lettering?

Pics would be great....

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You'll find a reeded edge on modern dimes, quarters, halves, large dollars, and SBA I do believe.
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The reeded edge will look like the edge of any Seated Liberty half dollar or any of the modern coins mentioned by argentum. The rim will also look different since the lettered edge halves were struck without a collar while the reeded edge halves were struck in collar.
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 Posted 01/10/2013  08:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In other words, a reeded edge is how you tell a quarter from a nickel in your pocket!
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 Posted 01/10/2013  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ron_CA to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok Guys thanks. For some reason I was thinking it was something different.

Class dismissed.
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the capped busts that have a reeded edge just looks somehow different overall for some reason.
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 Posted 01/10/2013  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add g048406 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Capped Bust Halves were produced using the Screw Press until 1836. At the end of 1836, the mint issued 1,200 new Capped Bust Halves that were minted using the new Steam Press. The steam press used much greater pressure and led to a much more even and stronger strike:
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School-Me-Please...1836-39-Reeded-Half
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he capped busts that have a reeded edge just looks somehow different overall for some reason.

That's because they did modify the design on the reeded edge halves.
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thanks Conder101... I was wondering if that was the case!
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To me a 36 to 39 reeded edge half dollar,has little different design and is smaller size. Capped bust half is 32.5mm, the reeded is 30mm.

The capped bust has smooth with lettered edge. With the letters, "50 cents or half dollar"

Starting mid year 1836, a reeded edge was added. Pretty much like the edge of the current half dollar today.
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It is definitely a different design. Similar but I could pick them out easily without the date or size differences being obvious. If you check my 7070 pictures you can see them side by side.
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The number given for the mintage of the 1836 RE half dollar is absolute conjecture made up by Walter Breen. He did his best to reckon what he thought was realistic, but my analysis of the true mintage strongly favors 25,000 or more minted that year. Breen went with the total mintage for 1836, which included the CBHs made that year, then guessed how many were RE half dollars. I go into great detail in the book that Dick Graham and I wrote on the series.

Below are images of the both accepted subtypes of RE half dollars. They are the "50 CENTS" reverse of 1836-1837 and "HALF DOL." reverse of 1838-1839.

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 Posted 01/13/2013  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add g048406 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
According to RedBook, Coinfacts, Heritage, CoinWeek and all other known major publications, the mintage for the 1836 Reeded Edge Half Dollar was 1,200:
http://www.coinfacts.com/half_dolla...arieties.htm

http://coinmintages.com/capped-bust...ge/#more-155

http://www.coinweek.com/us-type-coi...r-1836-1839/

While it is true that the mintage may be +/-300, there is no possiblity of it being any more than that. The steam press was not set up for minting until the end of the year and the 1836 reeded edge was more of a pattern coin. It was actually minted after production for the year had ended. The so-clled official mintage is actually 5,000, but, most of that 5,000 were part of the 1837 reeded mintage as they changed the date midstream. For that reaso, it is estimated that of those 5,000; 1,200 were minted with the 1836 date and 3,800 were minted with the 1837 date
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 Posted 01/13/2013  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gyrene7483 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
g048406 and Tom B those are some beautiful half dollars.



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 Posted 01/13/2013  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add g048406 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Gyrene7483...I think TomB's 1838 is much nicer looking than mine, but, the 1836 is the only reeded I have right now. Alot of people think the reeded edges don't have the 'charm' of the earlier CBH's-end of an era kind of thing.......But, I think the reeded edges in high grade with nice toning are the prettiest coins ever..JMO
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Sadly, the mintage number of 1,200 is more fantasy than reality. As is often the case, publications quote one another and errors are wildly propagated. Breen gave it his shot at 1,200 and this number was picked up as fact by the resources you have listed. They are all wrong. The question is what was the true mintage. Get a copy of the Reeded Edge half dollar book that Dick Graham and I published this past year and you will see a detailed analysis of how many we believe were struck. We are not the only ones who believe that the number is approximately 25,000. Indeed, no one who studies this field has given us any indication that they do not agree with the revised mintage figure.
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