Modern Proof Maria Theresa Thaler?

That is a really nice example of the first Paris type. As You have commented the edges are very well executed. This Paris mint type is very hard to come by, the second variety with the broken arabesques is easier to find but don't buy a low grade one. The Paris mint shop was selling them up until around 1965 so its worth waiting to find a near perfect example. As for the "Missing" middle feather, that feather is the first point on the reverse to suffer from wear ( that is how The Royal Mint ended up producing their unique 1-2-1 version: they copied a Vienna mint coin on which that middle feather was badly worn).

that first one looks like H 28 a 1789- 92 strike the other two are from either Milan or Venice The obverse will enable the actual mint identification, although that second coin looks like it might be a Venice mint strike.

#2 is venice, #3 milan

For Milan/Venice attributions I actually find the obverse makes easier reading"


Going through the pictures you posted

1. Guenzburg 1789 -92
2. Venice 1817+
3. Milan 1815+
4. Paris (I can't tell which variety with out edge or Obverse photos)
5 & 6 Brussels/Birmingham strikes ( without edge photos I can't make a determination on the mint but the odds are both coins are Brussels). I would also be more confident of the attribution if I could see the obverse (Only 7 pearls in the diadem against the usual 8 for 20th century strikes)
7. Another Paris mint example
8 Possibly 1932-35 Vienna strike
9.Modern Proof( Vienna Mint)

wlj How close are my assessments to being correct?

On 5 & 6

Birmingham mint from 1949 on used Brussels mint Dies ( there is a myth that Birmingham Mint used London mint dies in 1949. What actually happened in 1949 is the dies were sent from Brussels to Birmingham but British Customs seized them and sent them to The Royal Mint asking if these dies were legally imported. The Royal Mint confirmed they were legal and sent them back to customs for release to the Birmingham mint. The only difference I have discovered that sorts Birmingham from Brussels is the edge( Birmingham mint improved the edging machine they were using and so there is a slight but distinctive different between the edges ( as identified from a Birmingham mint copper trial strike) Look at the edge iron meeting point after "Clementia" Brussels has two dots( sometimes touching) Birmingham only one ( often with a "bite" taken out of it).

In Austria well attributed Paris, and Birmingham/Brussels coins of high grade sell between €80-€100 Euro. I think the market has to develop more because the Paris mint 1st type (Pre wwII) is hard to find in high grade and has a much lower mintage so It has the potential to appreciate in value. That said it is not uncommon to find Paris mint 1st variety examples that have been struck off center and those examples can pull quite a decent amount. It cost me $155.00 for a spectacular example on US eBay( there was considerably bidder interest). There isn't much price differential between Birmingham and Brussels strikes but the Birmingham strike has a much lower mintage so I believe there is potential for Birmingham mint examples to appreciate more than the Brussels strikes.

The Hafner 28 can fetch up to €300.00 ( mode price would be in the range €230-€280. The Italian mint coins usually pull €80-€90. I don't see much room for appreciation, except for a few rare sub varieties (like H40 and H37b), in value for the simple reason though 19th century they were produced in large numbers.

There are still sellers out there who don't look at what they are selling so it is possible to pick up interesting varieties just for Bullion value( but this is happening with much less frequency than it did 10 years ago.. If any one travels to Paris just sort through the piles of MTTS in the Local coin shops and it is likely you will find MS examples of the 2nd Paris mint strike ( My last visit to Paris I found several ( but only found one 1st strike example after looking at 8 shops) all were priced at bullion value. One shop owner was really intrigued when I could pull out Parisian made MTT and was keen to learn how to differentiate them.

The MS ones I've seen of the early to mid 20th century were all very baggy as I suppose they were not handled with great care.

My latest displayed Paris mint 1st strike was bought from a Malta seller by US24.0 without any bidder for it. So there is a lack of knowledge among collectors for MTT restrikes generally.