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LWC With Unusual Lamination.

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 Posted 01/28/2013  12:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add sab3927 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Posting a few interesting coins. This 1946 wheatie has a rather unusal lamination on the lower reverse. It has a round shape. I'm thinking a drop of fluid weakened the underlying metal when the metal was rolled resulting in the roundish metal failure after strike. What do you think?
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 Posted 01/28/2013  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really don't know but....that round spot has a whole bunch of lines like it was brushed. It makes me think there was a grease spot or something unattractive on it and somebody tried to clean just that spot.

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 Posted 01/28/2013  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sab3927 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for commenting Buddy. The lines are the underlying metal flow you see after a lamination detaches. The circle is depressed but not too deep. I think brushing would have eliminated the tail end of the wheat stalk so we may have to rule out that possibility. Let's see if more ideas roll in.
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 Posted 01/28/2013  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Trickworm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it is lamination. Just a bit strange looking. Could it be struck through?
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 Posted 01/28/2013  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sab3927 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With strikethroughs you usually don't see the design below because they are usually harder than the planchet metal. Note the appearance of the tail end of the wheat stalk in the hole. The metal flow lines and the presence of the tail more than likely point to a lamination. The shape is the unusual feature. Something affected this round area of the planchet causing the surface above it to fail and detach. Perhaps a drop of oil or other liquid was rolled into the metal strip the planchet was punched from. I love mysteries like this. Just fuels the fire more.
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 Posted 01/28/2013  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mds308 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Buddy,

That makes a lot of sense. The scratches look like a spot cleaning. Is this area in question recessed like a crater? Those scratches go beyond the circle too. That's all I got.
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 Posted 01/28/2013  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a puzzle all righty!

But I think what sab wrote make the most sense: that something dripped onto the metal.

It still looks like a bit of spot cleaning but after sab wrote about metal flow I took a longer look and the lines. They do seem to extend a tiny bit beyond the rim of the damage but that could be do to wear. I think the brush marks on a cleaned coin are not all in the same direction like these are.

It is a puzzle.

Whatever the cause of the lamination...it's a keeper.
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 Posted 01/30/2013  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sab3927 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the feedback guys. I'm going to go with the lamination because of the mushy appearance of the tail of the wheat stalk in the hole. Looks like other laminations where design elements have that mushy appearance at the bottom. Brushing I think would have damaged the tail. The drop of liquid as the underlying cause still seems probable.
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 Posted 01/30/2013  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mds308 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sab,

Here is one I posted a little while back. Similar but larger and not as rounded.

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