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Question Regarding 1 Lb Silver Eagle

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 Posted 01/30/2013  08:32 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add bekiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
it should weight 453.5 gr
on the scales it is 450 gr ... is it normal or fake?

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 Posted 01/30/2013  09:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To my knowledge, the mint did not create 1 pound silver eagles. It is possible that this is a silver round privately minted - rounds are often collected. There are ways to test for silver content so it may be worth a pretty penny if silver.

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 Posted 01/30/2013  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've handled these before... If I remember correctly Washington Mint? Really only worth the silver value file into it and throw some 18k acid on it you will know immediately. Always confusing because they use AVP weights and not Troy weights. Could the scale be off?
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I have seen these at the coin shop. They are beautiful and rather impressive. They originally came with a COA.

They were minted as 16 troy ounces from the Washington Mint, Continental Mint,the infamous National Collectors Mint and a few others I believe, but we all know a troy pound is only 12 troy ounces. So if we do the math it should be 16 X 31.1 = 497.6 grams right ? So you are about a troy ounce and a half short of an AVP pound.

But it appears that this one is 3.6 grams short of 16 AVP ounces, which is generally within the +/- of private mints. The quality control of private mints is generally " close counts "
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01/30/2013 09:57 am
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Hmm, neat! Never heard of them before!
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@bekiz---You've given me a case of classical Freudian "Bullion Envy" because yours is bigger than mine! I've got the 8 oz version of this one. If I'd known there was
a 16 oz version, I would've waited until I found one of those before I took the plunge. Oh, well. Good thing our local monthly coin show is this coming Sunday...
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It doesn't look like the Washington Mint version, the Washington Mint ones I've seen (with a COA), the nose on Liberty looks a little more Roman.
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It is possible that each coin is minted slightly different especially being a one pound coin. I would expect some variance in weight.
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The difference could also be from the (lack of) accuracy of your scale. Has it been calibrated and/or are you sure of its accuracy to three significant figures, let alone four at that weight? Just a thought. I know this isn't your first large silver buy, but I guess I'm not sure if you've used the scale on those other large items before.
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01/30/2013 2:51 pm
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I noticed the reeding on the edge does not do a complete 360 around the coin. Does the unreeded area below the date have any markings?
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They aren't worth but what generic silver goes for in your way but it's real, made by the Washington mint. I would probably list it on ebay to get rid of it as someone there may give you a premium for it. I am not a fan of the Washington Mint's product just look like cheap replicas to me. But heck, If you bought it for the right price silver is silver in my book.
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Quote:
I would expect some variance in weight.




Even the most quality controlled highest premium coins from the mint have weight variances
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 Posted 01/30/2013  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bekiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your reply, gentlemen.
offered price is below spot
I'll think if I should go for it or wait for some more recognizable coins ...
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