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I peruse several sites looking for modern commemoratives since I feel they are under valued right now and I like them. One purchase I did not look at the pictures very as closely as I should have in a Prestige Set and when I got it, the commemorative was starting to turn "milky". Since then, I make sure to look very closely and I see a lot of the commemoratives for the 1980's and early 1990's have the start of the milky look or are totally hazy.

Was there an issue with planchets then or is the a Prestige Set storage problem? Has anyone else noticed this?

Thanks for the input.
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I have a whole set of the Prestige sets and have no milky problems on any of them. I am not a big fan of toning in proof sets, so I replaced a couple of sets with toned commemeratives. Milky is usually a product of poor washing and rinsing of the planchets prior to striking. Not just in Prestige sets
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I have several silver proof Ikes that are milky or hazy. I think it may be a result of the gov packaging not being airtight and storage conditions. Just my opinion with no scientific data to back it up....(IMHO)
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will milk end up toneing to a diffrent colour?
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Some of my modern proof commemoratives have this problem and many collectors shy away from the proof issues due to this common issue. I attribute it to the environment I had them in. All purchased from the mint but with living mostly in western Oregon I think the humidity had an effect on some of these.

This one had toned nicely.

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Where as this one is "fugly"

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There are many of these coins out there. Just look closely at your choices and you can get milk free examples.

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This has always been an interesting issue.

From my experience, the development of "milky" surfaces on modern commemorative proof silver coins is not restricted to coins in Prestige Sets; I've seen many "milky" coins in individual capsules as well (as muddler has shown). I've also seen it with the some of the 1983/84 LA Olympics coins that were specially packaged in cardboard and soft plastic. In addition, like dave700x, I've seen it on a large number of silver proof Eisenhower dollars.

I have a few early Prestige Sets and a few early proof two-coin commemorative sets. Though stored together, some have developed milky white toning/haze while others have not.

I believe it is a combination of the preparation of the planchets and the storage environment. I agree with dave700x, the Mint cases/capsules are not airtight. So, the coins are subject to the environment in which they are stored, with some coins reacting more strongly than others due to one or more planchet production/preparation issues



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Thank you everyone. It sounds like I really need to pay attention when looking at commemoratives. I have my one milky example so I now know what to look for.
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I've seen it on a large number of silver proof Eisenhower dollars.
Other than in photos, I have never seen a silver proof Eisenhower dollar that did not have this issue to one degree or another.
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For jbuck

This Eisenhower is one of my better ones.

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Muddler, your constitution dollar is awesome.
To th OP, I focus on the unc commems. Part of the reason is the lower mintages, part is the haze and milk spots on the proofs. The main reason is that I just prefer the way they look, but the haze/tone/milk spots are abundant.

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This Eisenhower is one of my better ones.
Thank you, he is very nice!
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Hmm... now I need to pull my old sets and look through them. I did pull my Ike and don't see the hazing, but heck I am old and my eyes are bad....
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Wanted a 1973 brown Ike...Looked at a dozen or so at a recent coin show. One was not hazy and/or milky looking....Bought that one,,,Hope it stays that way! Silver Ike's are Beautiful!
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