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I am cataloging my collection and stumbled on my 1868 Shield nickel. I can't tell if I have a Reverse of '67 or Reverse of '68 variety. I've searched the internet to try to find a site that describes them with no luck. Does anyone here know the diagnostics to look for to tell the difference between the two? |
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From Cherrypickers: Look at the stars in relation to UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. The positions below refer to the outer point of the star. Quote:Reverse Hub IIa, Without Rays -Below the left foot of the A in STATES -Below the right foot of E( S) in STATES -Below the left of the upright of the F in OF -Below AM in AMERICA -Below the left foot of the R in AMERICA Reverse Hub IIa is almost identical to Reverse Hub I, except the rays have been removed from the die. The star below the F has a broken point at 10: 00. This hub is found on all 1867, Without Rays; some 1868; all 1869, Narrow Digit; and some 1869, Wide Digit nickels.Fivaz, Bill; Stanton, J.T. (2012-07-01). CherryPickers' Guide to Rare Die Varieties of United States coins: 1 (Kindle Locations 6966-6974). Ingram Distribution. Kindle Edition. Quote:Reverse Hub IIb -Below the A in STATES -Below the left serif of the second S in STATES -To the center of the F in OF -Below the right edge of the foot of the M in AMERICA -Below the right of the upright of the R in AMERICA Reverse Hub IIb is found with both solid and broken letters. It is found on some 1868 nickels.Fivaz, Bill; Stanton, J.T. (2012-07-01). CherryPickers' Guide to Rare Die Varieties of United States coins: 1 (Kindle Locations 6975-6982). Ingram Distribution. Kindle Edition. And on shieldnickel.net, there is a table summarizing which hub designs were used each year: http://www.shieldnickels.net/hubs/hubs.htmlI think this is the information you seek; hope it helps  |
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Oh, and another possible reverse hub for that year: Quote:Reverse Hub IIc -Below the left base of the A in STATES -Below the right foot of E( S) in STATES -Below the left of the upright of the F in OF -Below the M in AMERICA -Below the right side of the upright of the R in AMERICA The first S in STATES is doubled slightly along the left side. The denticles are doubled, with the first set seen in the spaces between the final set. Reverse Hub IIc is found with both solid and broken letters. It is found on some 1869 and all 1870â€" 1883 nickels. (Some 1868-dated nickels are said to exist with this reverse hub, but this has not been confirmed.)Fivaz, Bill; Stanton, J.T. (2012-07-01). CherryPickers' Guide to Rare Die Varieties of United States coins: 1 (Kindle Locations 6982-6991). Ingram Distribution. Kindle Edition. |
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Thank you ThisIsFun. I think that helps. Based on the above, it looks like I have Reverse Hub IIa. I assume that means it is the Reverse of 1867? Agree?  |
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I agree. I was typing a longer response but the power went off (using iPhone now). More later.
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I looked a little further in Cherrypickers and for what it's worth, your coin appears to be Variety 1 (FS-05-1867-901). Bigger pictures would help as I'm basing this on the appearance of a broken lower serif on the C in CENTS and the lack of other certain broken letters.
You probably already know that there a many many varieties for the 1868-- doubled dies, RPDs, etc. Any doubling or repunching on yours?
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Kelly... I know why you're laughing. You think I'm so addicted to coins/CCF that having the power/internet off for an unpredictable amount of time would be intolerable... that as soon as one source of connectivity went down I'd immediately reach for another. Well, you're right. Crisis averted though; power is back.  |
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Your coin above the more common Reverse of 1867..... "Early AM". My nickname for the Reverse of 1867 (the 12:00 star points to the "E" in STATES" and the 1:00 star points between the "A M" in AMERICA).
For the Reverse of 1868 with all the progressive broken letter varieties, I call it the "San Francisco Mugger" (the 12:00 star points to the "S" in "STATES", the 1:00 star points to the "F" in "OF", and the 2:00 star points to the "M" in "AMERICA".
Actually all you have to look at is the 12:00 star - if it points to "E" it's the more common Rev.-67, points to the "S" it is the rarer Rev.-68. However, I've found using the Early AM and San Francisco Mugger nicknames makes it easier on the memory for identification.
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