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1868 Shield Nickel DDO + RPD? -Need Help-

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I know nothing about double dies on classic coins. Is this a true double die? If it is, what type is it? I came across it by going through my old coin albums and I have no idea how I missed it before.

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It's not a DDO it's a RPD, not sure which one.

What does the reverse look like? There are a couple of varieties; Reverse of 67 & Reverse of 68 (several sub-varieties).
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10/24/2013 12:05 am
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Ah, RPD makes more sense. Are the areas on the bottom of the shield not DDO?
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Also, here's the reverse:

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You have the Rev of 67.

The DDO's in the CherryPickers Guide use the Annulet as the PUP (Pick Up Point).

There is always the NGC VarietyPlus website;

http://www.ngccoin.com/vp-categories.aspx
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No to the DDO, if it is it's a really minor one, as the leaves show a slight doubling, almost has the appearance of Strike Doubling. That said it is a real nice RPD!
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I appreciate the help. Doesn't look too uncommon from what I found, but still really neat nonetheless.
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I actually suspect this is Machine Doubling. It was common on cupro-nickel coins from this period, including FE cents. That might explain why you see those doubling also in nearby parts of the design.
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I can subscribe to your interpretation DVC, the evenness of the lower portions of the numbers in the date could better describe the unevenness of a re-punched date
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Just something to look at--a PCGS certified RPD from this date, compare to the OP's coin.
What is different about the doubling between these two?

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I have the same coin I posted the other day I posted under grading I just think with doubling of the lower shield and some leaf tips it's more than a rpd. Plus location mine the date is crowding the ball. I don't know. Guess I'll send it in
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I don't think this is a RPD nor a DDO. It is Machine Doubling on both. You can tell by the shelf-like doubling. The Machine Doubling affected both the bottom of the shield and date. The doubling on both go in the same direction and are flat, not rounded like a RPD or DDO would be.
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Its definitely Machine Doubling. I have the exact coin and sent pictures to Brian Bare I think that's his name. he handles all nickels for J Wexlers books and website and he said the same shift between shiwld and date indicates Machine Doubling. I had a fight with ebay because someone reported me. I understand there are new people who you don't want to learn but he madeit sound like my $50.00 price tag on a vf/35 was to rip someone off.
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If you plan on getting more Shield nickels, which I'm sure you will. Personally, the easiest and first thing I got familiar with is the way the arrow heads were punched. Helps with dates on occasion and varieties. Then, you can make it as complicated as you want...which with the amt of varieties that come with Shield nickels you can make it pretty challenging yet fun.
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An RPD usually would only affect the date, not the surrounding devices. I think you have a classic machine doubled example, although very dramatic.
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I have this variety in my collection. It is a RPD with Machine Doubling.

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