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Identifying Chinese, Turkish? Other Asian Coins And A Medal

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 Posted 02/06/2013  06:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cointosser77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've been reading somewhere though that in general if the Chinese ones are magnetic then it is a good sign of them being fake, mine are all nonmagnetic so they could still be genuine? I do not see any giveway on the edges that they were cast...maybe should save up for a handheld XRF:)
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I'm afraid there is no question about it - they are fake. Interestingly genuine Chinese cash from the Sung dynasty were made of iron and are hence very magnetic.
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According to this http://www.calgarycoin.com/referenc...na/china.htm I find many more that are bronze rather than iron, I am confused now...
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Not surprised that you are confused! If they were genuine the #1 & #3 coins would be from the Wang Mang era (AD 7-22). Between the Western and Eastern Han Dynasty. The majority of his coins were made of bronze with gold, silver and shells thrown-in for good measure! There were several varieties of this 'wu shu' coin due, mainly, to illicit casting.(for which the punishment was death - but that didn't seem to be a strong enough deterrent!!). For example - various sizes and character styles, coarsely made (a Szechuan product),a double outer and a double inner rim etc.
When purchasing any coin it is important to know the origin of the coin. Buy only from an established dealer who is known and trusted in the numismatic community. The Calgary Coin website is an excellent source of information. Also, if you have the time and inclination, check the British Museum collection of ancient Chinese coins.
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Well the Chinese ones I bought those off a reputable major antiques and fine art auction in the UK, the guy who runs it is well known and does evaluations for several antiques programs on tv in the UK. They look real to me, also the patina on each coin is slightly different, they look as if they have age so so I am a bit confused about them potentially being fakes.
Well as I said in the future I won't be buying Chinese cash coins anymore, real or fake, too much of a minefield.

Speaking of fakes, I did buy 2 Silver Austrian Philharmonica bullion coins from the Guernsey Mint, I weighed each one of them on my 2 decimal scale and they differ in weight by 0.13 grams... SO all this thinking about fakes seems to spoil the fun greatly.
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To all who said the Chinese cash coins might be counterfit:
I did bring the Chinese coins to someone with years of experience dealing with coins to have a look at and was told that they are in fact genuine!:)

Well except for one more brassy and newer looking than the others which is not on a photos here "which could be a contemporary restrike/forgery/counterfeit"

So I am happy with that:)

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