Identifying Chinese, Turkish? Other Asian Coins And A Medal

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Cointosser77 Valued Member United Kingdom 195 Posts	Posted 02/04/2013 11:33 am I need some help identifying these coins here wondering if I struck a good deal with them or not: At least 1 is Turkish I think and the ones with the hole seem to be Chinese Cash coins but not sure what year etc. The medallion seems to be Silver, but it makes not the right noise when dropped on wooden table... It does leave mark with paper test and is not magnetic and fairly heavy... Report this Post to the Staff

alganbagerap Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2490 Posts	Posted 02/04/2013 12:09 pm 5 is a white metal medallion and 12 is KM# 248 Egypt 40 Para AH 1277 yr 10 (1869). I should recognise 6&7, but my brain's tired. Report this Post to the Staff
Cointosser77 Valued Member United Kingdom 195 Posts	Posted 02/04/2013 12:20 pm wow thanks a lot, I was convinced #12 was from Turkye! no wonder I couldn't find it anywhere! Kudos! Report this Post to the Staff
rooneydog Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 739 Posts	Posted 02/04/2013 12:32 pm No 1 is suspect is this but a modern reproduction http://www.sportstune.com/chinese/c...tachuan.html probably 3 as well - an expert will hopefully correct me if I am wrong Edited by rooneydog 02/04/2013 12:35 pm Report this Post to the Staff
philadelphian Pillar of the Community United States 3253 Posts	Posted 02/04/2013 12:44 pm The Band of Hope medal is associated with a conservative British political association called the Primrose League (supposedly named after Disraeli's favorite flower): http://primrose-league.leadhoster.c...medal14.html http://primrose-league.leadhoster.com/history.html Report this Post to the Staff
rooneydog Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 739 Posts	Posted 02/04/2013 12:56 pm No 2 a chinese zodiac charm coin ? and 4 Edited by rooneydog 02/04/2013 12:57 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Cointosser77 Valued Member United Kingdom 195 Posts	Posted 02/04/2013 1:14 pm Wow thanks for all the help, I now found http://www.calgarycoin.com/referenc...na/china.htm and it is a bit of a minefield but much better to browse than the Krause catalog when looking to identify and learn about the Chinese coins Report this Post to the Staff
alganbagerap Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2490 Posts	Posted 02/04/2013 1:27 pm AFAIK the Band of Hope had no political affiliations but was, and is, a temperance movement dedicated to warning children and young people of the dangers of alcohol. Report this Post to the Staff
Cointosser77 Valued Member United Kingdom 195 Posts	Posted 02/04/2013 1:41 pm I guess I will just give that medal away then to someone who goes to AA meetings. Any idea of the value of the others? In total I bought about 14 of these Chinese coins for $75 at an antiques auction, so far I managed to sell one for ca 5$ on ebay but it took a whole afternoonto find out which one it exactly was lol Report this Post to the Staff
alganbagerap Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2490 Posts	Posted 02/04/2013 2:32 pm That particular Band of Hope approx $5-7 and the 40 Para $3 in F, $10 in VF Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16844 Posts	Posted 02/04/2013 6:28 pm Unfortunately, the Chinese "cash coins" (#1 to #4) are all reproductions of ancient cash, some of which have been given a zodiac theme on the reverse. Also replicas (I suspect) are the three ancient Judaean coins: #8 is a prutah from the Maccabean period, but I can't tell which king (see this Wildwinds page for similar pieces); #9 is a copy of a bronze from the time of Nero (Hendin 652 on this Wildwinds page, while #10 is a bronze from the First Revolt period {Hendin 670 on this page). You might want to post closeups of just these three coins in the Ancients section for a more professional opinion on ID and authenticity. Finally, I think #6 and #7 are Iranian "civic coppers" from the 1700s-1800s, and #11 is an old Spanish copper from 1655. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2887 Posts	Posted 02/05/2013 4:31 pm No.7 is a falus of Awadh Sha Alam II AH1173-1221 1759-1806. That's a Northern India princley state. My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Report this Post to the Staff
Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2887 Posts	Posted 02/05/2013 4:33 pm I think Sap is right with all the others except I think No.6 is an Afgan civic copper rather than Iranian, though the distinction can be rather blurry in some instances. My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Report this Post to the Staff
Cointosser77 Valued Member United Kingdom 195 Posts	Posted 02/05/2013 4:57 pm Thanks for helping guys! This should give me somewhat an idea how to catalogue those (well they will end up all in the same box of unusual coins I guess. Am a bit disappointed that the Chinese cash ones are fakes, they are pretty darn good fakes though imho and I will probably stay far away from them in the future, did pay like $70-75 for over a dozen of those at an antiques auction, I guess won't be going there anymore.... Report this Post to the Staff
andyg Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 1321 Posts	Posted 02/05/2013 7:15 pm >>>I think Sap is right with all the others except I think No.6 is an Afgan civic copper rather than Iranian, though the distinction can be rather blurry in some instances. #6 is KM351.3 Awadh Falus..... Report this Post to the Staff
Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2887 Posts	Posted 02/06/2013 02:49 am Andyg - your right good spot. My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Report this Post to the Staff
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