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Vermont-Colonial

Vermont-Colonial

Among the coins I inherited was a old tin full of mostly British & Canadian copper, but there were also some colonials, civil war & Hard times tokens. Sorry for the shiny picture, the coin itself is a nice dark chocolate color.

how do you grade these things?
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Fantastic coin! Believe it or not I believe that coin grades VF or better. Wonderful surfaces. This coin, the Bresset 15-S, was made from dies (as many Machin's Mills pieces) to look old and worn. Not a scarce variety, at least 1000 known. It really takes a colonial expert to grade these, in particular somebody quite familiar with these coins. Most people would tell you G - VG (that's how it looks), but I contend VF+.
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I agree with scropper on both accounts. The Broken A on the obverse along with the rasise raised dots on the breast plate confirm B 15-S



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Scropper pretty much covered it :-)
I would also contend that you are looking at a VF coin and would agree with Ryder 16.
Appears to be a problem free planchet to boot.
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Any chance we can take a look at the other colonials you found? I know the folks in the token forum wouldn't say no to some pictures of the civil war and hard time tokens either.
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I really, really enjoy the early colonial period coins, unfortunately I don't have any (yet). I've had an odd one here and there when I was dealing coins, but I certainly enjoy seeing them, this one is a nice one. I'm currently reading Crosby;s "The Early Coins of America" and touches on many of them in his writtings.
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wow, thank you very much for the information. Should I consider slabbing this along with my other higher value coins?

Vermont-Colonial

Vermont-Colonial

Here is my other Vermont. It has a much better obverse than the first one, but the reverse is considerably worse, but from what I've read online this is common for these issues. Again, please feel free to comment on type, grade, value, etc...

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I wouldn't slab them in general colonial coins sell for the same price whether they are graded or not.
You are correct they did have a LOT of trouble getting a good strike but yours looks like wear to me.
The Ryder variety will come along shortly.
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Colonial experts, any more thoughts on variety or grade?

I also have a Rosa American, Fugio, a badly off-centered Connecticut and well worn Mass cent to post later..
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