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Predecimal Type Sets

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 Posted 02/17/2013  8:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mdavi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Do many people here collect predecimal type sets? I'm considering doing this as a possible future project, and would like to hear anyone's advice on the matter, cost estimates, etc. Thanks!
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 Posted 02/17/2013  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd rather have a full set than just a type set, but a type set is an achievable goal. Cost will depend on how nice you want the coins to be but if you spread your purchases a predecimal type set won't break the bank.
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 Posted 02/17/2013  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter S Thomas to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My type set kinda grew to end up being a full set.

The thing I have noticed is that type sets don't really get the same focus here in Oz as they do in the states.
Not that is a bad thing, in fact I think a type set album from ANDA would help get new people to start collecting, but ...
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I have a Type Set in a Dansco Supreme album along with my other Pre Decimal Sets. It also came out of having spares from the others. One downfall is having to own 2 34/35 Florins if you also have a Florin set.! If I was starting from new I would happily start with this set as it would be relatively affordable to have a lovely set of coins.!
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The expense of a full set is what made me think of just working on a type set. Although who knows where I'll go from there?
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The thing I have noticed is that type sets don't really get the same focus here in Oz as they do in the states.


Yeah, that does seem to be the case. I guess a United States coin type set is a much more difficult and costly venture even for mediocre coins.


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The expense of a full set is what made me think of just working on a type set. Although who knows where I'll go from there?


The bulk of the cost is centred on small number of coins.
A type set shouldn't take long, but if you enjoy it you'll probably naturally progress to the full set. But you can always stick to certain denominations.
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I think a good way to collect is to pick one denomination to focus on for a while. Within the predecimal denominations you can then focus down even more. For example you could try to collect a full UNC or better set of KGVI Sixpences.
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Excellent idea Enworb.! Focusing on one denomination would eliminate most of the chaos.!!
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Thanks for the great advice, everyone. Now something that I've been wondering, and to which I can't find a clear-cut answer, is this: does a type set include commemoratives? Perhaps it's just a matter of personal preference. It would make some sense to include the commems in a predecimal set, since there are only 4 of them (right?), but for a set with a lot of commemoratives (like the decimals) it seems a bit over-the-top to me.
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The Dansco supreme album for an Aussie type set has the commems in there. I think it makes sense.
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Excellent idea Enworb.! Focusing on one denomination would eliminate most of the chaos

A type set does not consist of one coin type.
the "type set albums " produced insist on all the commemorative florins ( including the grubby naked man on a horse Jobie) and all the 1910 Edward coins.
Why not get a good example of each common denomination and leave it at that?
Bugger the Edwardian coins because they were only there for 1 year.
To do anything else will discourage new collectors.
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 Posted 02/18/2013  04:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im aware that a type set doesn't consist of one denomination but mdavi asked if there was another way to go other than a type set. I think that focusing on one denomination is a good idea when starting out. Most collectors probably dont stay hooked on one denomination though (i sure didnt).


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Why not get a good example of each common denomination and leave it at that?


I like this idea for someone first starting out. I think that because its not many coins one could aim for the hardest date of each denomination.

I reckon a 1923 1/2d, 1925 1d, 1915 or 34/33 3d, 1918 6d, 1933 Shilling, 1932 Florin and 1938 Crown.
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Trout, I like your idea too. It seems like a straightforward way to start, and in all likelihood that's what I'll begin with, but I like the idea of having a representative sample of each Australian predecimal type. Considering the extra expense/difficulty, I'll probably save the Edward VII coins and commems till last.
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Except for the '30 penny, (substituted a '25) I made up a complete bronze and silver pre decimal type set, where each type was represented by the rarest date for type, min. VF condition.
They was sold decades ago, to help raise a deposit for a house.
Never regretted selling them. You can't put a roof over your head with a stack of rare coins!
I kept and still have all of my books.

Included everything, all Eddy 7's, Melb Cent. florin, 39 'Roo, '32 Florin, '33 shilling, '42 plain 3d., '23 halfpenny, '25 penny, '46 penny, '38 crown, and a '21* shilling bunged in for good measure. Didn't have a 21/22 overdate 3d. You may call me a somewhat obtuse sort of collector.

Also sold: an Australian gold type set (not rare dates), but it DID include an Adelaide Pound, a '55 Sydney Mint sovereign, a '56 Sydney Mint half sovereign, (17 gold coins), and about 50 ancients which included three Roman gold coins. All 7 of the half sovereigns were of the Sydney Mint.

Anyone's guess what that collection may be valued at now!

These days, I am much more into ancients of all cultures. However, the vast majority of my current collection of World coins to modern times would be worth less than $5 apiece.
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 Posted 02/18/2013  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Excellent idea Enworb.! Focusing on one denomination would eliminate most of the chaos.!!


Indeed it does. A friend was showing me his halfpennies recently and I realised he had so many nice ones only because he focussed only the halfpennies.
But as enworb says, the focus rarely lasts.
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