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 Posted 02/20/2013  09:11 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add macdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I recently purchased a coin graded by NNC that has a MS65 on the slab. A local dealer contact suggested I get it crossed checked because of the reputation of NNC but he also stated the coin appears to be graded correctly. Is NNC that bad ?
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 Posted 02/20/2013  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A person assigns a grade to a coin and then sells the coin for the assigned grade ... what could possibly go wrong?

That is the definition of a "Basement Slabbing" operation. Reputable companies do not own the coins they are grading and conflict of interest is avoided for the most part. NNC is private ... you won't find a webpage for them that solicits your coins for grading. The person behind all this is notorious on about all coin forums. He did win a PCGS-sponsored grading contest, so he has some skills. He's also been shown to be a crackout artist. He buys problem coins in PCGS, NGC and/or ANACs holders and then they show up in an NNC holder problem-free.

Despite all this bad news, he makes mistakes on occasion and puts an accurately graded coin in an NNC holder.
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 Posted 02/20/2013  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the aftermarket, NNC garners little to no respect. Depending on what you want to do with the coin. If your just going to keep it, the slab is as good as a capsule for storage.
Unfortunately if you are going to sell it, people will give it no more consideration than a raw coin. Depending on the coin, crossing it could increase the value, or as stated above, it could come back.details, lowering the value below raw.

Such is the chances you take when buying basement slabs.
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02/20/2013 10:23 am
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 Posted 02/20/2013  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ya SeatedNut hit it right on the head, perfect answer, lol.
Personally I'd have it re-graded if you really want it in a slab or are that curious about what it will grade.. Or if it doesn't really matter to you I'd crack it out and keep it raw.. Keeping it in that slab deters from the value.. IMHO at least. People tend to steer away from those slabs at all costs. (I prefer raw coins anyways so I'd crack it out)

It would be the same thing as me buying empty slabs, printing out labels, overgrazing them and selling them at those grades/prices... Totally a scam artist move.

You should also post pics of the coin in question in the grading section and we can all tell you if we think it was graded properly.
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 Posted 02/20/2013  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It would be the same thing as me buying empty slabs, printing out labels, overgrazing them and selling them at those grades/prices... Totally a scam artist move


Note to self : Pass on coins from Nathan's grading service.
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 Posted 02/20/2013  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lol, good call! NGS....I love it! But sadly I don't sell coins unless its trading scrap for gem examples. I Strictly buy.. And I DO put my coins in slabs from airtites.com but there all label less.. I know the grades and that's good enough for me... (And its all written in a notebook). I only buy coins I "can't live without" so I'd probably have a panic attack if I sold any, lol.

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 Posted 02/20/2013  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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NNC is private ... you won't find a webpage for them that solicits your coins for grading.

Sorry but they DO have a website, and they do solicit submissions.
http://www.nnccoingrading.com/

http://www.nnccoingrading.com/coin-submission.html
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 Posted 02/20/2013  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for replies re: NNC. I havent mastered sending pics yet maybe later. I will have the coin cross checked.
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 Posted 02/20/2013  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Despite all this bad news, he makes mistakes on occasion and puts an accurately graded coin in an NNC holder.
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 Posted 02/22/2013  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Unfortunately if you are going to sell it, people will give it no more consideration than a raw coin.


NNC coins are potentially WORSE than raw coins, because the holder conceals the edge. If/when you crack out an NNC-graded coin you may find serious edge problems like filing or solder from a removed mount.

Here's the link to my topic about the NNC quarter eagle I purchased.....

https://goccf.com/t/131291&SearchTerms=1844-D
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 Posted 03/16/2013  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pokermandude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Stay away from any unknown grading "companies" like these. ebay has done a decent job at reducing the amount of these kinds of third world/overgraded holders on their site, but there are still a lot available.
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