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Valued Member
United States
455 Posts |
I am curious if anyone is earning a living dealing with coins? I really love them as a hobby and it would be great to be able to earn an income working with them.
I does appear that there is very little (if any) margins that can be found by selling coins...unless you have a lot of money to make a very large purchase.
So overall, just curious if anyone has found a creative way to make money and more importantly, are you willing to share what you're doing with us?
Thanks.
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Bedrock of the Community
13014 Posts |
Theres plenty of dealers that earn livings selling coins, some even get rich off it. Theres also plenty that go broke from it and have to find a new job.
The reason why its so hard for non dealers to make money off them is because we dont buy in enough volume for better deals and your always paying retail or real close to it when you buy them.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1005 Posts |
I am selling coins to pay for physiotherapy
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1721 Posts |
I guess it's like any other marketable item. Supply and demand plus the price you are asking. You can make a living doing anything when you can provide a product where the customer wants and can afford to buy it. Then there's inventory. Where do you get it? How much are you willing to pay and how affordable will it be for a resale?
I know many waiters and waitresses that make a living with coins.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
919 Posts |
I think you have to look long term. New dealers that were adding gold and silver coins at $1800 gold and $34 silver took a bath in the last few months. Dealers that were buying at $300 gold and $5 silver made a killing. I have to believe day to day can be tough. Look at silver and gold this morning. Silver up 75 cents and gold up $20. If you sold a large amount at a show on Sunday you just missed an up move. Markup is very low so there is not much room for error.
Look at some of the high end slabbed coins. Some have lost hundreds or even thousands of dollars since 2008. From what I see at shows dealers try to survive by buying slabbed coins and having them upgrade to the next level. Good luck.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11951 Posts |
In most cases I would say no.
More people lose money trying to buy ans sell then make money.
To be able to make money you have to learn/know how to sell coins, meaning knowing what you can sell it for before you buy.
You will need good outlet for selling many different types of coin and you will need a constant source to purchase new coins.
In addition you need to have knowledge, experience and trust. People with money will not do consistent business with someone who does not have these traits.
Unfortunately if someone is young, it would be very hard to have experience and trust.
Then a person will need a lot of funds, some say 50 to 250 thousand dollars. You will also need buyers that will be ready to buy the large purchases you may make. I have seen many times a customer walk into coin shops wanting to sell 100K to 500K in gold and silver. In those amounts many have to sell the same day.
Of course this is just my opinion, but I hang out in a lot of coin shops.
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Valued Member
Australia
64 Posts |
you have to remember the other aspects of coin dealers. most sell accessories as well (flips, albums etc.) that they can buy at wholesale and sell at retail
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New Member
United States
16 Posts |
Coins really aren't any different than any other type of business. Buy lower than you sell, build a solid customer base, and take care of those customers. Like any business you have to have the merchandise that your customers want.
I know of some dealers who have been around for 50 years and I have known some that didn't make it a year. Good business skills are the most important aspect of any business.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I go to lots of coin shows. At some I go to many of the dealers are repetitious and are at most of all of the shows I go to so I get to know them. One dealer I have talked to for many years usually has from three to four tables at each show. That used to be all he did for a living until a few years back he opened a coin/hobby type store. He has four kids and a wife that all live rather well from mostly only selling coins. He once said he always makes in the 6 digit figures each year. He doesn't even have a web site. He told me he is to busy to bother with one. Another dealer at most of the shows also tells me the same thing. Only he has just one table. He only deals with really high end coins and has a web site that shows exactly that. So as to your question, YES. And some not only make a living with coins but a really great one too.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
9792 Posts |
I've seen every side of it, One of my early coin friends has gone on to be one of the more famous dealers and has owned almost every rarity you could imagine, others have taken up extra jobs to cover what they loose trying to be coin dealers. Many do go on to make very comfortable livings.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
7096 Posts |
I would think the need to make a living out of coins would spoil the joy of collecting them. Me , I work for a quid and spend some of that without hesitation on the coins I enjoy. I would hate to spoil that  
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
Quote: I would think the need to make a living out of coins would spoil the joy of collecting them. I feel the same. I've never sold a coin. I've given many away as presents. Always glad to help others start in this hobby. In order for me to make a living on coins, I'd have to sell some or lots of them. Just can't part with a coin except as a gift. I always feel like it would be selling a finger or toe or some part of me.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3692 Posts |
The trick, then, Carl, would be to buy coins you don't like personally but you know will sell to someone in mind. Do you give away your prized coins? Probably not.
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New Member
Australia
31 Posts |
I've been buying and selling coins for some years now. Because I feel I have to justify my habit to my wife (she actually doesn't care), I keep a spreadsheet of all my sales. The result - after several years, I'm break even. I've made no loss and no profit on the coins I have bought and sold.
I see this as a good result becuase I tend to keep the better purchases and sell off the not so goods. But I doubt I could ever make a living from it.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
Quote: The trick, then, Carl, would be to buy coins you don't like personally but you know will sell to someone in mind. Do you give away your prized coins? Probably not. Oddly enough YES. In fact I just gave a kid of 7 a Whitman Album of Jefferson nickels complete from 38 to 64. Not long ago I sent a kid a pile of Pennies including a 31S and all free just as gifts to get them started on coins. Since I'm rather on the elderly side, I would rather give any coin to a kid than sell one. Also, valuable ones. When you get really old, starting to sell anything is just to much trouble.
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
175 Posts |
My father in law makes a decent living from dealing, he used to get most of his stock from auction but now most comes from people selling collections. He only sends out two catalogues a year, to customers he has had for years, no shop, no web site. I think the trick is to specialise and to realy realy know your stuff.
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