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1798 Ligurian Republic

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Sorry for the poor photo. I'm learning on the fly and need to use the digital camera but having a time in macro mode.
anyway found this cutie tonight.
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 Posted 02/26/2013  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! do not see many Genoa coins! That one is a beauty...I would get it slabbed though....probably worth a couple grand.
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I had to put it in an unused $20 US Gold holder for protection!! What does "slabbed" mean?
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thanks for sharing, but I'd love to see clearer pics !

the revolutionary & Napoleonic eras produced new states, some of which amalgamated, or were swallowed up, but they briefly existed, and some produced coins.
Sadly, these coins are not often seen, but interest is limited, so they aren't ridiculously expensive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ligurian_Republic

your coin is similar to those of the Subalpine Republic.
I hadn't realized that such coins were produced as early as 1798.
If ever you tire of it, please let me know.
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Quote:
What does "slabbed" mean?


Sent to a third party grading company. They will autheticate, grade and encapsulate it.

Here is a similar (1804) that sold for $14,000

http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...&lotNo=22290
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 Posted 02/26/2013  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gazot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Peter and Amida:

Apparently I have my work cut out for me and I see valuations are as difficult now as they were 20 years ago when
i was an avid collector. One post says not ridiculously expensive and the next shows a similar coin for 16K.
Obviously authentification is a good place to start but can either one of you comment on the disparity of your opinions? Not judging....just confused.




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Slightly better pics...............

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My observation is based on a completed Heritage auction, although not the exact coin I am confident that your coin is worth at least $4000. I can not speak for the other member...
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"My observation is based on a completed Heritage auction, although not the exact coin I am confident that your coin is worth at least $4000"


I dropped this coin off at Stacks in NYc today for certification. He was convinced of its authenticity.

Let you know as soon as I do.
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Sweet!
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Gaz,
Any news on this one yet?
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Genuine Env damage AU Details
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Cool! AU details xcellent coin!
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Hello members,

I am glad to buy this important historical coin of Napoleonic era. This coin was minted at the time Napoleon was not the emperor and France was not an empire. The design on the reverse showed a harmonic sign of a brotherhood relationship of France and Genoa (named Ligurian Republic)- representing by two lovely female liberties.

The coin was bought from a very professional seller in ebay. He described the imperfection on the oberse side a "haymarking" caused by the planchet irregularities and improper silver alloys.

I share this coin to you and hope you can give your idea about what caused this planchet imperfection.

On the edge inscriptions : PESO GRANI 726 and BONITA ONGIE 10.16, can anyone know the meaning of these words. Does it show the weight and %Ag of the coin? It seems likely but the figures are odd to me, maybe it is telling a different measuring system.

Any comments will be appreciated.

Specification of the coin: 40.9-41.0mm 33.20 grams.


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"Bonita Ongie 10.16" would be a fineness of 10 ounces 16 pennyweights, one would suspect. In decimal notation, that is 900 fine, as there are 20 dwt to the oz, 12 oz to the lb, in the Carolingian system. "Peso Grani 726" would be 726 grains in weight, using some Italian value for the grain â€" according to Zupko, at Genoa the grain was 0.046 gram, of which 726 make 33.396 grams.
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