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Valued Member
Canada
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Found this '84 nickel in a jar of change that had been collecting dust since that time. I first discarded it but thought to go back for a second look. Glad I did!  
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I don't get it, what am I missing?
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Great find!  "Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
Edited by DBM
03/10/2013 11:08 pm
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Valued Member
 Canada
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I've been trying to figure out whether the planchet was damaged before going into the press or whether it had first been stamped by a dime press then made its way through the nickel press. The crack on the obverse goes from the ear to the rim but doesn't breach the rim. Believe it or not, I found another that was dated 1994 in a nickel roll the following week that had similar damage to the reverse but no cracks.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Not much wrong with this nickel.
If it has been in a jar for some years, my guess is that there has been a small amount of moisture between two coins that hasn't been allowed to evaporate. The coin next to the nickel was of a differnt metal, and a slow electroytic action has been allowed to proceed between the two coins, thus producing the arc shaped staining, which you can now see.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Great CSI work sel_691!
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Valued Member
Canada
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Ha! Ha! Um, that would be great detective work if it weren't for the fact that the arc is actually a crack with staining around it. You're not going to try to tell me the same process was in play on the reverse of the coin causing the metal in the centre to cave in on itself, are you? You did note that the image is intact (undamaged) and the denticles are all there. The coin had to have been struck on a damaged planchet making it an "error" coin! Actually, a GREAT error coin!
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Valued Member
Canada
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Bobber has his point. If the arc is caused by another coin in the jar, the text would have more trace because it has a closer contact. However the text and the beaver's tail looks intact.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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From an entirely different standpoint to the stains, I note that the denticle pattern on both sides is eccentric to the outside circumference of the coin, and ALSO to the rim.
This fact makes it an off centre error, but of a type I have not seen before.
In consideration of this fact, some speculation further in this thread may reveal how this type of error came about.
Perhaps this explains why the coin was saved from circulation in the first place.
Edited by sel_69l
03/11/2013 07:51 am
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Valued Member
Canada
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@ bobberbear
if you have a loupe, place it on the lens of your camera and try some different close-up angle shots.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I have a question regarding this coin. IF the planchet was like this before stricking, would the design elements and the legend be able to be fully struck? To me if the metal is missing, then how can the design be raised over something that is not there?
I'm asking because I don't know the answer (for educational purposes) not to be argumentative.
Thanks
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I have never sen what a nickel blank looks like after being in a dime press. But I would have thought that the dime press would have done a lot more damage than is on this coin...? No?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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maybe a close up photo would help
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Valued Member
Canada
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I'm not sure either. That's why, at first, I discarded it thinking someone had damaged the coin after market but if that were the case there would be damage to the image. It also makes sense that if the planchet had been damaged before striking, why is the image complete? Logically, there would be something missing when the nickel die struck the damaged planchet. I mentioned the dime strike only because of the size of the indentation. There is no sign that the image on the dime is also on this coin. Unfortunately, I don't have a loupe. I have a pair of magnifying glasses that are 20X. I'll use them to take a closer look and see if I can come up with anything. What's the cost of a loupe and where can I buy one?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Is the whole area indented or just the outer ring?
Edit: forgot how to spell.
Edited by middross
03/11/2013 3:35 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Interesting, I'll stay on to see the conclusion...if any. |
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Posted 03/10/2013 10:38 pm
