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Km#s Help On 1921-Half Crowns Etc.

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Picked up 3 different dated silver half crowns
from a local antique dealer. (cheap:)
1937 and 1942 I know are KM 856's
I see that the 1921 shows as a KM 818 (as far as the pic.)
but when I looked it up it shows 3 different
KM #'s for this year coin. 818.1, 818.1a and 818.2
Shows no pics for these for me to compare it with.
I noticed that one of these 21's has a much higher
ASW than the other two. I believe it is the 818.1
Does anyone have pics. of these other coins ? besides
mine below. And also which KM is it. Not in great shape but ? Thanks for any help/info. The coin pictured is 32 m.m
and around 14 grams.


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 Posted 03/17/2013  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
KM 818.1 is the sterling silver version of the coin, only struck 1911-1919.

KM 818.1a is the .500 fine version, only struck 1920-1922.

KM 818.2 is the "modified design", only struck 1922-1926.

For 1921 halfcrowns, KM 818.1a is the only option.
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Dead easy to find if any half crown is .925 sterling silver, or .500 fine. They have different ring tones, the .925 sterling coin having a lower pitch.

Actually, the ring tone on my mobile has a slightly lower pitch than the .925 half crown. I am sure you wanted to know this!

The 1921 half crown was alloyed .500 fine, with Ag 50% ,Cu40%, Ni 10%. Basically, a standard copper nickel alloy, which was then alloyed 50-50 with pure silver. As it turned out, the British silver coins of 1920-22 developed an ugly yellow tarnish in circulation, and The Royal Mint was not happy with them.

They solved the tarnish problem by substituting half of the nickel with zinc, producing what they termed a 'quaternary' alloy. The blanks had to be blanched in acid, then rinsed, before striking. That leached some of the copper, nickel and zinc out of the surface.

The coins gained surface enrichment when struck, because the acid treated surface was a little soft and spongy, with the removal of the non silver metals. Also made them easier to strike, thus extending die life.

All 500 fine silver coins after 1922 of Great Britain and her Commonwealth Countries used quaternary alloy, until the withdrawal of silver coins from circulation.
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Thank you both for the info.
Seems like the 21 is the same ASW as the 37 and 42.
Yes, I can also tell the diff. between these and the
.925
There is a slight diff. though in drop ring tone
as well as look and feel
on the 21 as compared to both the 37 and 42.
Must just be the mass or something.
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Quote:
Dead easy to find if any half crown is .925 sterling silver, or .500 fine. They have different ring tones, the .925 sterling coin having a lower pitch.


So very true... simple but effective

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