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We already have baseball commemoratives, how about football?
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United States
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This is going to be a debacle. The five and one dollar are going to be concave, and the half dollar will be flat, the scales differ greatly, from the size of a nickel to a silver dollar, but all three have a common obverse! There have been four baseball-themed coins already, so a successful design needs to find a new angle, but doesn't depict any real player or stadium. I think this will be a challenging series to successfully execute, with a lot of bad designs submitted.
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I think it is going to be fun to see... I am less than impressed with the baseball stitching as the reverse design - but what the heck. The most interesting aspect of it will be the concave design - I know I'll field at lest a couple of these coins when they come to the plate...
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03/29/2013 1:34 pm
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I think that they should have taken notes from Canada who just did an UNBELIEVABLE series of baseball coins for the world baseball classic. http://www.coinnews.net/2013/02/06/...ative-coins/Im willing to give the curved coin a chance though I'm very skeptical of it and even the design submissions though I'm sure Ill get the chance to be critical of how they just picked the easiest and not the best like they have been trending towards  . But enough with the recycling designs for different coins. Why do they all have the same obverse, the 5 star generals basically have the same reverse. The baseball is a little cheesy for the dollar coin size, it probably will look great on the half though but again not on all of them. The one thing I do hope though is that the curve on them isn't so large the TPGs either have to make a special slab or wont grade them since my set is graded. And yes I will be highly (probably over) critical of this coin because I love baseball and I love coins and when they collide I want them to be the Babe Ruth of coins not the Mario Mendoza Edited by basebal21
03/29/2013 7:12 pm
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basebal... I didn't spend $115 for any Canda's baseball series. I actually thought the series images were pretty generic and in no way earned that kind of premium.
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 especially with all the other coins you could buy with that. Mind you I'm not a huge baseball follower either. |
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They were generic which was their point to honor the game and not an individual player. The mint price was high but they basically used the Perth Mint model of high premium low mintage. Obviously if you arent a baseball fan its not going to be something that gets you excited, if you are however they are very exciting. |
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There have been four baseball-themed coins already There was the 1992 and 1995 baseball coins and the 1997 Jackie Robinson. What was the fourth one? |
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@basebal21 Absolutely, they would be great for those who enjoy baseball and coins! Two hobbies in one package (sort of  ) |
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I like the idea of an open design competition, it could result in some outstanding, fresh ideas! It's too bad, however, that all three coins will feature the same designs (except for the denomination). While I'm definitely disappointed in the fact that common obverse and reverse designs will be used, it's not the first time it has happened in the modern US commemorative series (at least for one side of the coin!) - the 1983/84 LA Olympics silver dollars and the 1995/96 Atlanta Olympics silver dollars are two examples that come immediately to mind. The reverse of the 2003 First Flight Centennial coins were very close in design as well. Here's a link to a previous discussion of these new baseball coins; it includes a few images I posted of a US Mint medal issued back in 1972 to honor Roberto Clemente - its surfaces are convex. https://goccf.com/t/124045Quote:
There have been four baseball-themed coins already, I believe this would be the "set of four": 1. 1992 XXV Olympiad Silver Dollar 2. 1995 Atlanta Olympics Half-Dollar 3. 1997 Jackie Robinson Silver Dollar 4. 1997 Jackie Robinson Gold Half-Eagle Regarding the set put out by Canada for the World Baseball Classic, my belief is that it was too ambitious of a program for an event that is still trying to find its way. If I recall correctly, it included four silver coins and three gold coins - and would cost almost $4,000 to purchase the entire set. The price tag has kept many folks away from the set. I'm a life-long baseball fan. If they had released one silver coin and one gold coin, I probably would have purchased a set but seven coins and $4k was enough to keep my credit card in my wallet. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Absolutely, they would be great for those who enjoy baseball and coins! Two hobbies in one package (sort of ) Perfect for baseball nuts like me if you cant tell I really love baseball Quote:
Regarding the set put out by Canada for the World Baseball Classic, my belief is that it was too ambitious of a program for an event that is still trying to find its way. If I recall correctly, it included four silver coins and three gold coins - and would cost almost $4,000 to purchase the entire set. The 3 gold coins certainly does make getting them all very cost prohibitive, I have considered the one with the diamond on it as my first gold coin and am hoping to find that later one cheaper, fingers crossed. The WBC is a great idea imo especially with the Olympics getting rid of baseball, I do agree though its still trying to find its way. 7 coins was probably a bit ambitious, though I would say 4 silver and 3 gold coins is ambitious for pretty much any event unless they were doing them by country where youd presumably only get your favorite. The interesting aspect of the WBC is that in the US its not a huge deal as you could see from how half our players treated it like spring training, cough Adam Jones cough. Yet you see other parts of the world like the Dominician team and everyone is playing every pitch like its game 7 of the World Series. I like to believe at some point the US will get tired of being embarrassed in it and show up to play for real or find guys that want to, but so far we havent done so. For those that are interested the link below does carry the coins slightly cheaper than the Canadian mint sells them for along with many other world coins for cheaper than list price from their respective mints. I assume they get a bulk discount from the mints. http://www.talismancoins.com/servlet/StoreFrontEdited by basebal21
03/29/2013 9:58 pm
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United States
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I think this is a big development. All the US coins prior to this have a picture of something or someone. But now they are going to make a coin that mimics an object (a baseball complete with stitching and it's curved). I thought they should have done this with the Girl Scout coin (a coin that looks like a cookie). I don't like baseball much, but I really like the concept here and the fact that the Mint is taking a big step. |
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Pillar of the Community
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basebal - I am a baseball fan as well! Well they call what my Twinkies play the last couple of years baseball I guess. As for the canadian set - I just thought $460 plus the inflated shipping the RCM charges was not going to sell a lot of those coins - so the 7,000 mintage limit might help - but I have plenty of other coins to purchase for that kind of money. I also like the WBC and did catch a few of the games - including watching Dedundo dominate the final. Nothing like an out of control fastballer to keep the feet moving in the batters box! |
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Doug the Twinkies had a good run time to come back down to earth lol, definitely a very different look for them now though. If you live there hows the stadium, looks really nice but I must say I didnt understand putting an open air stadium in that part of the country. The coins were pricey I got all four silver ones for 420, not cheap but a lot better than what the RCM was selling them for. I dont mind paying a little extra for them since baseball ones from an actual mint are few and far between and I wasnt sure if theyre going to do them for all the WBCs or that was just a one off thing. The WBC was great this year lots of surprise teams like Italy, could have done without the Dominicans going undefeated though. They did have a great roster though. Dedundo really was the prototypical dominican pitcher, throws hard just not sure where it will end up. Those guys arent fun to face at all, sometimes terrifying depending how hard they throw. Ill take the guy who paints corners all day long over the ones whose just as likely to put it in your ear hole as throw it right down the middle |
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Basebal - the stadium is as awesome as it looks in pictures. They also put it in the perfect location, something that you don't always get. It is right in the heart of the downtown bar scene. Price is why they have an open air stadium. The local tax option wasn't highly favored as it is, and everyone knew that once the Twins had a new stadium there was going to be a new football field to pay for...The Twinkies struggled with a poor GM for a few years and he emptied the kitchen for pitching. This year is also going to be a struggle - since Dedundo is a star pitcher for us - you can imagine how that will be... I am hoping this isn't the year they decide to fire Gardenhire - I think he is a good manager given a poor pitching staff.
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