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Advanced Raw Type Sets - Think Outside The Dansco

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 Posted 04/04/2013  10:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Drsandman2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey all!

So, I got really bored with my Dansco 7070. I felt way too boxed in, and that they did a terrible job of defining what a US type set actually is. I collect classics, so the inclusion of two Ike dollars, the Susan B and Sacagawea are examples of why I really didn't like the 7070.

Apart from that, the 3-cent silver was shallow - and the seated liberty types were out of whack. After looking over PCGS's list of classic variety types... I couldn't really agree with them more. So, I made my own album.

I transferred all my coins from the Dansco to 2x2 cardboard flips and bought 2x2 binder pages. A quick rinse in acetone got rid of the cardboard contributions from the Dansco...

With the holes that were left in my binder pages, I made my own 2x2 paper inserts with the missing types on them. This way, I know what to look for. The idea is that I can take my type set binder to a coin show, quickly trade off what is there for upgrades, and know instantly what needs to go into my missing spots. I don't have to consult a guide or a computer while I'm at a coin shop or show. Further, one can write their high bids for that type on the back of the insert in any given grade range.

Extra sheets are in my binder and contain coins for trade. After I made my binder, I quickly realized that there were about 15 coins from the Dansco I can now sell. For instance, 4 commemorative half dollars, a silver eagle and lucky for me... the 1981-Clear S proof Susan B. Anthony. I quickly came up with around $300 worth of modern coinage I can auction off for something like... a seated silver dollar!!

Also, I made a check list of coins I need and inserted it into the back of the binder. It includes the variety, where I got the coin, and what I paid if I didn't inherit the coin. I can provide a link to a webpage on my site that will give you access to the .docs that I used to create the 2x2 inserts and type list... if the mods allow it. Or just PM me.

Anyone looking to get rid of their Half Disme?

Cheers.

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 Posted 04/05/2013  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gyrene7483 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like you have this well planned and organized.

I have also found the Dansco 7070 album to be lacking in what should have been included in many series. I haven't abandoned my album altogether, it'a a low priority now and will eventually be completed. Good luck and happy hunting!

Ed
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I like it! Looks like what I'm planning on doing with my Two Cent Pieces now just sitting in 2x2 single row boxes at the moment.
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 Posted 04/05/2013  01:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Drsandman2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gyrene - WOW, at 999... early congrats!!

westcoin - I always value your feedback. I'd love to see your Deuces! Congrats on ANA 30-years, '82 is my proof set. ;D
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Your collection as it is now presented, is not as neat and well defined as in a Dansco, BUT that is the way I would go myself.

Your coins are now in a better storage environment (although some would readily disagree),
each coin can now be accurately described on the 2x2, (that could include amount paid and the date of acquisition), and
you now have the flexibility to define your type set as YOU perceive it.

Bonuses: if you wish to add a desired duplicate, that can be easily included and
you are now in a position to expand your collection seamlessly beyond the horizons as defined by the Dansco album.

You must consider that I am biased. I have stored my collection in 2x2's in clear album pages from the beginning.

When visiting coin shows most folks just take a written list. That is OK. In your case, only take an album page with the pockets with written squares in them of the coins that you are looking for.
I have never taken any coin from my collection to a coin show, unless for a specific reason, or to exchange in upgrade.

Actually, I don't like slabbed coins, and there is no coin in my collection that IS slabbed. Having said this, slab albums ARE available.
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04/05/2013 02:50 am
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sel - Thanks for the feedback! I put my IHC set in Kointainers before placing them in quarter sized 2x2 flips. I'm having a really hard time imagining what beats Kointainers inside of flips!!

If fact, the Flying Eagle cent in the first image is inside of a Kointainer... and you can't even tell. I can remove this coin, and my IHCs from their flips and still not be worried about damaging the coin. They have already saved me once. I dropped a mint state Indian Head in red-brown on the floor, and it rolled under the refrigerator!! I almost died, but realized it was in a Kointainer, and the Kointainer didn't even get scratched.
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04/05/2013 02:47 am
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I care less for your method of preservation [ i.e. I have no opinion ] than for your courage
to break away from the dictates of an album maker.

How did that Burger King Commercial go? "Have it your way. Have it your way!"
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 Posted 04/05/2013  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know it's a bit ridiculous because apparently nobody ever recognizes this variety. But, Petite Head cents (the early small-design version of Braided Hair).
And while you're at this, the two 1839 varieties - Silly Head and Booby Head. Instead, get rid of any coins on the list that you probably could never afford either way (IIRC, a few of these would actually cost more than the Half Disme).
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 Posted 04/05/2013  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you look at the RedBook they have a new header for each variety change.

I personally would add the 1912 V nickel with mintmark, SLQ type 3 recessed date (1925-1930), reeded edge Bust half with half dol reverse, a mintmark obverse walking half, the silver clad 40% Kennedy half and copper nickel clad Kennedy half

I would also add all of the affordable modern coins like the Westward Jefferson nickels and the current design, the copper LMC and Zinc LMC, the 2009 varieties, the shield cent, clad Washington quarter, State Quarter, territory quarter, national park quarter, Ike dollar, 40% Ike dollar, SBA, SAc dollar, Native American dollar, PResident Dollar, and man the mint sure makes a lot of varieties as of late.
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The idea of making a type set of coins you want instead of what Dansco thinks should be there is certainly a good one.

I have done the same thing, to a degree. I just went in a different direction than you. I simplified things and only concentrated on major types. Things like including only one seated piece of every denomination, and I treated bust coinage as one whole type per denomination. I also didn't feel like commems or ASEs should be there at all. My entire US type set has 45 coins (56 with gold). It is yet incomplete, but that is the plan. That way, I can also spend money to go high grade and be able to legitimately finish the darn thing. I also won't ever need to find one super specific date from such very early types where it can be real tough.

You're going to need some deep pockets and a great deal of patience if you're ever going to find some of your earliest types in any presentable condition. That was really important to me personally. I feel like a type set should embody the full beauty and detail of every coin. Your flowing hair coins, for example, would simply be impossible for me to obtain looking like anything other than a washer.
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