1934 25 Cent

Hi jg,

Hope your day's goin' well... :)

They are not the most flattering pics... especially the obverse... but good enough to make me wonder how ICCS would have graded coin as MS...

cameron93

thanks bmx - I'll have to check to see if I can upload different pictures when I get home from work.

cameron - the coin doesn't have any eye appeal (hence my upgrade), but with it in hand, I don't doubt it's MS. What are you seeing in particular?

Thanks pokerman. It's not cleaned, but I was concerned that the picture seems to show it that way. Definitely a concensus that the pictures are poor.

First off... you have to take the coin out of the 2x2 for a approximate grade.
Next, the coin is heavily toned, which is hard to grade in that condition.
I would say it is probably MS-62 if you had it in hand, I think ICCS got it right.

It's cleaned.

At least by the pics, I'd say 100% cleaned.

Like I said, the coin was previously in an ICCS holder. There were no notes saying cleaned, scratches or anything of the sort. Also, based on my personal experience, ICCS will only grade an MS coin that's been cleaned as MS-60, this one was MS-62.

I'm going to pull it from the holder, and take some more pictures. I should probably re-list, since it won't be in the same holder, but I'll figure that out. I should probably also learn how to take better pictures. I've got a $1000 Canon SLR, that I can't seem to use better than a point and shoot!

" CAVEAT EMPTOR " - Buyer Beware :(

Anyone who's been around this hobby / business for a while will recommend that you " Buy the coin, not the package... "

If you don't know this already, you should...

I suggest that anyone buying a coin in ICCS slip critically examine it just the same as you would a raw coin... don't take it for granted that the grade printed on the slip is to be accepted without question...

Just because a coin is "in" an ICCS slip does not necessarily mean it is the same coin that once-upon-a-time went to ICCS for grading...

There are unfortunately far too many ICCS look-alike slips floating around out there... it's very simple to take the printed card out of an ICCS slip, then use that 1934 25 Cent MS62 card with an inferior coin, seal it in another plastic pouch, and then seal it into another slip...

There's no special sealing process or marker to the creation of the slips that is unique to ICCS only... and there's nothing at all special about the makeup of either the outer plastic slip or inner plastic pouch to distinguish them as genuine... they are pretty generic materials to either find similar product or replicate.

cameron93

For the record, I bought the coin raw from a dealer as an MS-60 (paid $280 for it), sent it to ICCS and it came back MS-62. Definitely wasn't switched from the holder!