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What do you guys think? Cell phone pics. From an ebay lot I paid a touch over melt for.   Edited by FadeToBlack
04/12/2013 01:17 am
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United States
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Really nice for just over melt. I've been looking at Barber halves particularly over the past couple of months on ebay. It seems really hard to find one with these types of surfaces for that price. Most are scratched and bleached out ( harshly cleaned) looking. |
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Israel
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Details on the eagle's wings suggest VF coin, but overall it feels like an F15 to me.
Great buy for such money !
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United States
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Nice, original-looking coin which grades about F-15. Good deal!
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United States
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I agree F-15 and a good deal for just over melt!
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Bedrock of the Community
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I took some better pictures, I was hoping there were more responses before I post those.
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United States
3486 Posts |
At least a fine 12. I'd need to see a stronger "LI" before going higher.
At just above melt you did great, no matter what grade we say it is.
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What a difference crappy photos can make... It is, imho, an XF details, pitted, corroded coin.   Best guess from me is that it was buried in some fairly acidic soil for a substantial period of time, dug up, cleaned up nicely, and then sat in a hoard or junk bag where it slightly retoned. |
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United States
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The pictures are sooo much better. I notice there are many lumps of metals especially around the date, obverse and reverse stars, olive branch, reverse lettering, and reverse rim. Though I am not absolutely sure, I feel they were not a result of being in the ground. I find them all to be suspicious but I may have to do a little more research.
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Yeah, just goes to show you, what looks problem free, may not be... I'm pretty sure it's a real coin, or at least 90% silver, it sounds identical to other 90% halves. It could be a contemporary counterfeit, but those were typically crude, and this looks pretty dang good besides some of the metal issues. I'm about 85% sure it was a dug coin. Highly doubt it's a contemporary counterfeit. Don't know what else it could possibly be.
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United States
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I agree that it doesn't look like a contemporary counterfeit but there are increasing numbers of fakes of common and semi key dates recently since they don't get quite the scrutiny as key dates. Even if it was faked in 90% silver, I think the counterfeiter can still sell it for a profit especially if it has the details of this one which I agree looks similar to an EF. It could be dug like you said but a cast can produce a similar look. The edge has absolutely no signs of a seam, correct? Right now, I don't know if it is genuine or not.
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Nah, I don't think it's cast, the edge has a nice rim.
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Maybe I was a little unclear. What I meant is the third side of the coin, the part that is reeded and not the rim. I looked at about 100 examples on Heritage and was unable to find an example that had the same or similar lumps.
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United States
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Looks to be pitting form being in the ground as mentioned previously, I think it's real. at melt or slightly over melt you did fine. I grade it F15 surface problems.
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