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I think it grades out as a VG, but I would like opinions on the Mint mark as to it being genuine.I could not get a view from the side of the D MM looking east to west but the D appears to have a lower shelf to it...kind of like when there is MD to the right. It does exhibit the "sunken in" area under the MM. Most wil say send it in to a TPG, I just want to know if it is a candidate to do so. any thoughts are appreciated! Thanks,RK    Edited by RK55
04/16/2013 10:52 am
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The mint mark looks funny, and the area around it too. These were notoriously counterfeited over the years with the simple addition of a mintmark to a genuine 1932P.
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Take a tooth pick and see if the D pops off. The color and dirt around the mint mark does not match the rest of the coin.
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I tried the toothpick, broke the ends off of 2 of them. I also tried with my fingernail as I could catch it on the sides....no budge but a couple chips on the finger nail. Originally I was suspicious of the color and look of the area around the Mint mark and it looked like someone may have cleaned dirt around it for a better look as I am doing. The coin is housed in Whitman bookshelf album with a complete set of Washington quarters that had been stored for years in an attic. should I try an acetone soak? if so for how long to soak it? Thanks, RK |
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Not sure if acetone will do much to help here. It is very volatile (evaporates readily), so a "soak" only lasts a few minutes. There seems to be some scratches around the mintmark too. Not sure if it is from a cleaning effort or from tampering.
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Find a way to put a cap/airtight seal on the acetone and it will not evaporate giving you a long acetone bath. Been there, done that.
Last year I bought a 32-D from my LCS and, after putting it under my microscope, had pretty much the same situation as yours. It just did not look right to me. I called the LCS and he said he had taken it out of an NGC slab; gave me the number, and I verified it online. The further I researched, the more I found these can, indeed, look funny on legit coins.
Not only did mine have a slight patina around the MM (so I thought maybe the MM was heated/soldered on), but also the MM area was in a slight depression. If you look at large pics on Heritage auctions, you can see these characteristics on many of the legit coins.
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Find a way to put a cap/airtight seal on the acetone and it will not evaporate giving you a long acetone bath. Been there, done that.  with Earle. I used a baby jar and just enough acetone to cover the coin. Let it sit overnight then do it again with clean acetone for a few minutes. The coin looks a lot like a collection I cleaned that were in an old Whitman. I also agree VG and not a fake. IMHO Use the acetone in a well vented area it is very volatile as Drdave said. You can also use a cotton swab and touch with clean acetone before the final bath. Edited by bpoc1
04/16/2013 3:27 pm
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Thanks for all the suggestions, I don't have any acetone so I will have to pick some up and use the suggestions given. I have looked at it every which way and my sense tells me it is good. but who knows...
I will update when I can get the acetone and the baby jar. Thanks again, RK
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You mention the mint mark appears to be in a depression and that is characteristic of genuine coins. Combined with the bold look of the mint mark and I believe it is genuine. The mint mark is bold and looks out of place compared to low relief of the design. A saying I learned at a Counterfeit Detection course I took a few years ago is "If it looks good, it is probably bad; if it looks bad, it is probably good." It may have had a very light cleaning but it doesn't appear to be bad enough for it be called a problem coin. The rims are strong. I think the coin may grade VG-10 with a possibility of F-12. |
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Mae sure you get acetone and not nail polish remover that has acetone in it. The other chemicals in nail polish remover will likely leave some sort of residue - I think BadThad's posts somewhere will have the details as he is an expert in this area. Walmart sells bottles of pure acetone. |
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with D0ubl3Eagle, the depression is a characteristic of genuine coin. This looks pretty real to me. Probably would grade at VG10. Try a q-Tip of acetone held on the MM area for a minute or so, that should loosen any glued MM. I still think it's real however at $80-95 value retail slabbing would need to justify the cost. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440Edited by westcoin
04/27/2013 5:16 pm
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