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Help Grading 1887-P Morgan Dollar

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 Posted 04/22/2013  10:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Eklections to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Help with Grading. Any VAM ideas are welcome. Thanks!

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 Posted 04/23/2013  12:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it can grade MS-64 maybe a little higher. There may be a cluster of luster breaks towards the lower part of the cheek which may keep it from grading a 65.
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MS64 at least . To VAM this one we need much better photos, higher resolution and better focus. Check the eye for doubling, the "Alligator Eye" is common though, but does bring a small premium, often found in grades like this.
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 Posted 04/23/2013  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eklections to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The mark at the top right on the obverse between the cap and the you is on the plastic - not the coin. I'll post better pictures tonight. I don't see the 'Alligator Eye' on my loop. Several die clash marks on the reverse and die cracks near the star between the United and One as well as near the wing tip near the D and S and between the E and S of States and across the entire top of the letters in America.
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 Posted 04/23/2013  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the full luster is there I'm going to say MS65, there is a deep gouge above the D in Dollar, otherwise think it could have been MS66
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MS64 here as well.
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I looked at the gauge above the D in dollar and its really just a bag mark. I took better pictures tonight but ran out of time to upload them tonight. I listed about 10 Morgan dollars this evening and another 10 early Walking Liberty halves for sale on ebay.
Here's the URL for one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/19082964520....m1555.l2649

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This coin has clashing, but its date position and the angle of clashing/ the "die rotation" marks at the neck, and the does not seem to support letter transfers for VAM designations.
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Strong MS-64
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Here's some better pictures...


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And the whole reverse...

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I'm backing down to ms 64 now
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Ok. This was one I was about to up up for sale. I'll get pictures of my other 1887-p and see if it makes the grade. Thanks for the inputs. Marty
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I'm in at MS-64 on this. Check VAM-21A.

Edited to add - It appears to have the die chip on the wheat leaf.
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04/25/2013 11:19 am
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I'd say MS-64 for this one, really nice Morgan!
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MS-64
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