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 Posted 06/05/2013  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noahs-numismatics to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Certainly not the way I would respond to a potentially new paying customer.
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 Posted 06/11/2013  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add capsnhawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok guys, here goes. I called both ANA and Stacks and Bowers (S&B) yesterday afternoon regarding the ANA membership applications. First, ANA - I talked with the membership director and explained that it has been six weeks (4/30/13) since I faxed my ANA application to S&B, and that I still have not received my membership package from ANA. I told her that when I talked with the S&B rep on 5/14/13, I was informed that they had received my application and that they had sent the form straight over to ANA the day they received it (as they did with all other apps that were received). He said ANA was running a bit behind on processing the apps but to expect a memebership package from them in about six weeks from the date the app was sent to S&B.

Well............... The ANA woman asked for my name, checked her list of apps received from S&B, and the memebership packs sent out, and informed me that she had no record of receiving an app from S&B in my name. She said she had received a bunch of apps from them about a month ago, but nothing since then. She also noted that S&B does not send the apps over as they receive them, but rather bundles them, sending over dozens at one time. Well, that was a game changer. So, off I go to ring up S&B.

A woman answers the phone and I informed her of the situation. She told me she heard of the ANA memebership program, but was not very familiar with it. She took my name, ran it through their computer and said (just as the guy in my previous call did) that they received my app. I thanked her, and said I already knew that, but what I really needed to know was if my app had been sent to ANA. She put me on hold for about five minutes, came back and said she checked with the woman in charge of sending the apps to ANA and was informed that she had not sent any apps to ANA in about a month and that she was hoping to send another "batch" by the end of the week. I responded by informing her that this was not what I was told back on May 14 by another S&B rep and that I was bit peeved by this new turn of events. She wasn't particularly concerned with my frustration and basically said the other woman will send over the apps "soon" and to expect a memebership package from ANA in a few weeks.

So, what we have here is not an issue with ANA but rather with S&B. I am sure this issue is but a minor blip on their company radar screen, but as I told the S&B rep, this whole effort reflects rather poorly not only on their customer service relations (they do, after all, now have all our personal conatct info for advertising purposes) but more importantly on S&B as a company. She didn't respond, just silence. So I thanked her for her time and hung up. If anyone wants to follow-up for their own peace of mind, call S&B at 800-458-4646, and/or ANA Membership at 800-514-2646.
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 Posted 06/11/2013  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hate to say it, but someone has to. You get what you pay for.

That being said, they are not going to win any new customers this way.
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 Posted 06/11/2013  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add capsnhawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Totally agree. I should have just gone through ANA for my membership as I had intended to do before seeing this offer. You are correct to point out that you get what you pay for. Fair enough. Then again, S&B won't find me paying for any of their products or services any time soon.
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 Posted 06/11/2013  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed.

And I mean no disrespect to you or anyone else who signed up. It is not like some no-name organization made this offer. This is a well known and respected organization.

They are only hurting their own reputation. You will recover, they may not.
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 Posted 06/11/2013  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coins1989 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I started this thread so it's incumbent on me to comment I guess. We all want to believe the best and since this offer came from S & B I felt it'd be a sure thing. It now sounds as if they got far more response than anticipated and may be trying to back-paddle on their promises. I actually didn't see at the time how they could afford to do this so maybe my first thoughts were correct.

This does reflect poorly on them. It is in essence something for nothing so I am not going to push too hard on this- it may be a 'learn and move on' sort of thing.
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 Posted 06/11/2013  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noahs-numismatics to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, at least they weren't sent off the Mars for processing like I was beginning to think .

The fact that the rep. had no comment to make after your statement really makes me question their customer service department. Least she could have said was "Sorry, thanks for your patience" or something. Sheesh.

Ahh well, guess I wasn't dying without the membership anyways...
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 Posted 06/11/2013  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While I don't recall the exact day I faxed my application to them it was within 5 days of seeing the original post here.

Still haven't heard anything.
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 Posted 06/12/2013  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add capsnhawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
S&B's ANA membership offer ends June 30, 2013. At this point and contrary to what they told me the other day, my guess is that they are not sending another batch of apps (which includes most, if not all, of ours) over to ANA until after that date. Also, while this appears to be a "free" offer on the part of S&B, we really do not know what agreement they have with ANA reagrding the memberships. For all we know, ANA may not even be charging S&B. From their individual perspectives, ANA gets a whole bunch of new (and future paying) members and S&B gets a data base full of new names and email addresses to market. Works for both of them.
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 Posted 07/02/2013  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coins1989 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The offer has apparently ended and I assume none of those of us posting on here ever heard anything. I sort of feel like emailing Coin World and asking them to contact this company- they used their publication to publicize this offer. I doubt there'd be any response, though. Maybe someone has a bridge to sell....
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 Posted 07/02/2013  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noahs-numismatics to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Darn it. Guess I won't be getting in. I would have been interested in becoming a full time member if I knew if I would like it. Now I need to think about spending the money and trying it out...
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 Posted 07/02/2013  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stud722 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well that is not what I was hoping to read when I opened the forum. I was hoping the new post was about some one finally receiving their subscription or something. :(
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 Posted 07/02/2013  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No response on this end either.

Next!
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 Posted 07/02/2013  11:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Darn it. Guess I won't be getting in. I would have been interested in becoming a full time member if I knew if I would like it. Now I need to think about spending the money and trying it out...


It's still worth it IMO to join with your own $, it helps our hobby in the long run. I proudly remember my Life Membership was sponsored by Q. David Bowers and Ken Bressett. My parents H.S. graduation gift to me. Yep I took it over them helping me to get a car as a teenager, imagine that.

If I had not had a life membership then I would have probably dropped out of collecting coins at various points in my life, like college, and my failed marriage, getting the monthly magazine at least kept me informed, and then reminded me just how much I missed the hobby after my divorce. The ANA has done as much for me as I have for them, probably more the more I think about it.
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 Posted 07/03/2013  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noahs-numismatics to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm... okay. I'll have to look into it.
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