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1982 P And 1994 P Nickel Curiosities

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I've been learning a lot scanning through these forums and checking out some of the external links people have posted. I'm trying to get a good picture of an odd Lincoln Cent I found the other day, but in the meantime I thought I would put up scans of a couple of interesting Jefferson nickels I've set aside.

The first, a 1982 P, looks half-melted. I'm guessing it's a result of an extremely worn set of dies:

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Jefferson has a bizarrely sharp jaw line and the "E" in Monticello is nearly obliterated...

The interesting aspect of the second nickel was almost impossible to capture with a heads-on scan. I'm not sure this is even worth posting, but I manipulated the image within an inch of its life and think you can just make out some of the spidery, intersecting lines running along the surface of the coin, both in the field to the left of the portrait and down over the collar of Jefferson's coat:

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If you tilt the coin in the light they really do stand out (maybe I'll try re-scanning it at a tilt). They don't look like normal polish lines to me in that they are not grouped in parallel batches and of the same strength, but they are too regular for random die cracks. Any ideas?

cheers,
tbg
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On the '94-P, those marks on his collar look recessed like gouges. Are those lines between TRUST and Jefferson's nose raised or recessed
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 Posted 05/08/2013  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thebugguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fuzzy- the lines in question are definitely raised on the surface of the coin- you can also make them out between the P and the 4. The stronger, shorter line running beneath the bridge of his nose and away from the corner of his mouth are standard PMD gouges...

Ok, one more lame try- this time I tilted the coin, then inverted the colors and sharpened it like a razor. The image is bizarre, but you can see a bit more of the raised lines I'm talking about:

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Those being raised above the coin surface, leads me to think cracks in the die
Lets hear what our experts have to say.
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First coin, it is a VLDS die that made that coin. Nickels are hard on dies because of the 25% nickel.

Second coin, those are die scratches.
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Thanks, all, for your comments! While both the above nickels are rather interesting to look at (the die scratches are quite a bit more impressive in person), it doesn't look like I've unearthed anything of real value yet. Still, I appreciate the help I've received so far in identifying error and variety types- I'll use them as "exemplars" in my collection for future reference.

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tbg
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