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Thoughts On Damage Re Value.

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 Posted 05/14/2013  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi enworb I agree a carbon streak is a planchet flaw once it disturbs the surface but I don't think it is considered a flaw if it is simply a streak of colour.
On that penny there are many carbon streaks but only one that intrudes into the surface. Perhaps this is a combination of a planchet peel with a carbon streak. But I'm only guessing really.
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 Posted 05/14/2013  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Id say the lamination is a result of the carbon streak being a weaker section if the planchet. I'll post my one a bit later today. Its very similar.
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 Posted 05/14/2013  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Heres two of my coins Darge.

This one is my favourite lamination because its on such a pretty coin:


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This one is pretty cool. There is a hole right through the coin. You cans see the light poking through in the last picture.

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 Posted 05/14/2013  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think so in this case enworb, but I really can only guess.



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 Posted 05/14/2013  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Youre the one with the coin in your hand :)
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 Posted 05/14/2013  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is supportive evidence for both schools of thought though enworb. I have seen a lot of planchet flaws, peels, delaminations with no evidence of any carbon being involved, but I'm going to switch to your position in this case, as it is stronger.
The peel appears to coincide with the planchet streak (rather than the reverse) which is evidence for the peel being a 'result' of the carbon in the planchet.
I had erroneously thought that carbon streaks were from 'drag' over the top of a 'spot' of carbon in the extruding or polishing or whatever, process. I realize with a closer look that the carbon streak is the result of pockets or reefs of carbon being exposed at the surface. (with probably some drag too)
Hope that makes some sense.
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Im not sure the black marks are actually carbon, I remember reading thats just what theyre called. Laninations can happen for a variety of reasons but all are different forms of planchet flaws, mainly impurities in the metal but also gas bubbles etc
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 Posted 05/14/2013  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you find the article I would be interested to read it. Or any others. Thanks.
Very interested to see the photos of your coins.
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 Posted 05/14/2013  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 05/15/2013  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a nice one robster, any clues what sort of impurity caused it? Or gas bubble, whatever?
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 Posted 05/15/2013  01:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Unicorn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Robster ...... you crack me UP!

Is thems weevils in them there spikes?

(Real nice lamination )

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 Posted 05/15/2013  02:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seems I missed the humour "Pleeze explane" in my best Hanson voice. (which is not good)
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 Posted 05/15/2013  03:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ears of wheat can be infested by weevils.!!
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 Posted 05/15/2013  03:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That was funny but that was the unicorn's comment wasn't it?
What did you say that prompted the unicorn's comment "Robster ...... you crack me UP!"
Is it a private joke or relating to something historical?

Actually don't worry, I'm content to not understand, it's getting bigger than Ben Hur. LOL
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 Posted 05/15/2013  03:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unicorn was commenting on the coin eg. die crack. Very few people understand nor care about our humour but it keeps us old guys amused.!!Hang around long enough and you too will totally ignore what we post.! lol.
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