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Please Be On The Lookout For These Two Stolen Tokens

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 Posted 05/15/2007  8:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dcarr to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Package arrived in Sunnyvale CA ripped open, contents missing, with USPS "Received in Damaged Condition" stamp on outside.
Package was insured and value is not huge, but still infuriating:

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 Posted 05/15/2007  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice tokens I am sorry about your loss..
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 Posted 05/15/2007  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add I Palindrome I to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oh man, that stinks. I had a 1924 Double Eagle I sold on ebay go MIA from the Post Office. Thank God for insurance.
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 Posted 05/15/2007  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope they turn up, Daniel, but unfortunately they probably won't.
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 Posted 05/15/2007  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldDan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't see many tokens generally, but will keep an eye out for these two beauties.
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 Posted 05/15/2007  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I bought one from the same guy. Didn't see any neg feedback about lost packages. Hope all works out for ya.
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 Posted 05/16/2007  02:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morganator to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you bought these, he didn't id his package on the outside
with a return address like "Joe's Coin Shop" did he?
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 Posted 05/16/2007  07:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Westbozy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
those are pretty cool well keep my eye out for them. since I be looking around on ebay..
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 Posted 05/16/2007  07:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Handle with Care! Rare and Valuable numismatics inside"
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 Posted 05/16/2007  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
"Handle with Care! Rare and Valuable numismatics inside"

You've got to be joking.
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 Posted 05/16/2007  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ACTF_ZETT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If those are pictures of the actual coins that were stolen, check ebay every day for at least a few months. I cant believe he wrote that on the envelope......
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 Posted 05/16/2007  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
dcarr- Sorry to hear about your stolen tokens. Will keep an eye out for them.

You don't need to have "Joe's Coin Shop" on the envelope to put it at risk. The blue "insured" sticker on the envelope, plus the feel of the coin inside is all that is needed to tempt someone to work the coin out or push it through the envelope. Insured envelopes are in no way held securely by the post office. Anyone can have a try at it. You have to pay for "registered" mail to get them put the envelope in the safe at the post office. Even then, in my experience, registered mail is often ignored, not securely held, and not signed for. It is often safer to use inconspicuous regular mail which doesn't say "steal me!" Plus I resent having to pay the post office extra not to steal it.
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 Posted 05/16/2007  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rigoletto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am sorry about your loss Mr. Carr. :(

I love your work!
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 Posted 05/16/2007  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dcarr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was actually the seller in this transaction. And I'm not folish enough to put anything like "coin" on the outside. The package was a large envelope, very securely taped. The thief ripped it almost in half to make it look like a handling mishap. The tokens were encased in one of those large sticky corrugated cardboard fold-overs with my address stamped on it. In the last few years, I've had this happen three times. Two were packaged identically and one was a bubble mailer. All three were insured. All three were ripped open during shipment. And in none of the cases did the contents (which were securely marked as to their owner) ever turn up.

Interestingly, I've mailed perhaps a thousand similarly-packaged items that were not insured, and not a single one of those ever got ripped open in the mail (although a few buyers "claimed" that they never got theirs).

You may be wondering why I use insurance then. The reason is that items insured for over $50 require the recipients signature. So that is a relatively inexpensive way to show proof of delivery should the buyer ever claim they didn't get it. But the threshold for signatures on insured mail just increased to $200 from $50.
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dcarr the forum Dad (Bobby) posted some links a while ago to some companies that provide postal insurance at reduced rates and do not require the packages to be marked insured...
I looked into it and it was a good deal but I just did not do the volume of sales to make it worth while.
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I can testify to the well-thought-out quality of dcarr's mailings; if there's any way to make such a shipment look unlike what it is and where it's coming from, he knows how to do it. This had to be the work of someone who knows not only the obvious, but also the more subtle ways of moving coins through the mail.

It almost makes you want to forego insurance.
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