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 Posted 06/02/2013  8:25 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add new2coins69 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
i was wondering a few things:

How can you tell if a coin has been cleaned?

How much does it affect the vaule of the coin? aka when it is worth buying one?
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 Posted 06/02/2013  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
among other identifiers: many cleaned coins have hairline scratches, and some are clean on parts of the coin and still dirty on other parts of the coin.

Cleaning does reduce their value in most cases.
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 Posted 06/02/2013  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It may also leave the coin in different colors. Sometimes the metal reacts with the chemicals.

What Fuzzy said is great information!
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new2coins69, check this link out and just read until your eyeballs cant look no more! :-)

there's tons on this forum that will be very useful to you. The one piece of advice I can give that has helped me come along so far is just handle as many coins as you can. Known clean ones especially at shows in detailed slabs. you'll learn so much like that

http://www.coincommunity.com/numism...5j2281339j13
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 Posted 06/02/2013  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Different types of cleaned coins.

Polished coins leave a wiped out lack of details, dipped coins look bright (sometime too much for the amount of wear) but have porous surfaces, copper coins are easier to tell than silver coins.

Some cleaned coins look like they have been hit with a wire brush to remove folder glue or buried gunk.
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 Posted 06/03/2013  08:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add new2coins69 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks.

i def got my lunch time reading for awhile.

this is a neat hobby. a lot to learn and you get to see the history. they dont make coins like they used to. as a young collector it is a amazing. growing up I only knew of the standard coins (the ones we use to buy and sell).

i just wonder is this sort of a dead art in the sense the newer coins arent going to have vaule because people collect them more, their are no precious metals, and the amount minted?
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i just wonder is this sort of a dead art in the sense the newer coins arent going to have vaule because people collect them more, their are no precious metals, and the amount minted?


The mint can never repeat the artistic approach of the 18th and 19th century reliefs. I'm going to toss in the early part of the 20th as well. All IMO of course.

Lady Liberty in all of her glorious representations is by far the greatest appeal to my eye. Dead presidents, eh. Give me Liberty or give me death.

Now toss in the historic aspect. Think about when you hold a scare coin, how deep the historic and artifact significance is. I have a couple of coins, that although not even close to the most valuable on the block, are still scarce by their estimated populations, some numbering less than 125 known to exist. When I hold that coin and realize that there are 350,000,000 people in this country but only 125 of this coin, I know I have a task to preserve this piece of history and ensure it stays protected to continue to tell the next generations of what it represents.

Dead art form? maybe. Historical significance? absolutely.
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Very good points. I do agree with how you feel when you have a scare coin or for me it doesn't even have to be scare just the age along is amazing.

holdIng a coin thats 150 years old is amazing. Thinking about who used it, what they used it for. The fact now the coin will never be spent but collected and admired.
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You should think about picking up a couple of ancients. They can be had quite cheaply. Not 150 years old - but 2,000+ years. They will all be cleaned (unless it's an uncleaned lot) but that's expected. Even most European medieval silver will have been "cleaned" in some way. For coins that age - as long as it's not harsh or abrasive cleaning - collectors just roll with it.
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I may consider that. It is a neat idea. I am fond of Greek and Roman history.

However, hands down, American history is my favorite. I wish I could afford american coins from
the late 1700s.

For now I will be happy collecting what I can from the 1800 to 1964.



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I'd like a nice seventeen ninety something American myself. I've always wanted an early dime. and I am with you new2, without minimizing the tastes or collection activities of others, American coinage is the cats meow.
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After collecting for well over 5 years I finally purchased my first pre-1800 coin. A 1798 large cent. ThatI just stare at every day. Its amazing to think that someone had the foresight to pull it out of circulation at some point and preserve it. I am now that caretaker and will pass it to my grandson someday. He's 7 now. Need to wait a couple years but I'll start teaching him about coins in the next year or so
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I got okay at spotting cleaned coins by digging out some brown pennies and total junk silver (always worth melt no matter how ugly!), then going at them with whatever I had available. Blowtorch, Drano, toothpaste, bleach, boiling water and foil... at the end, I had a lovely assortment of pink pennies and bizarre dimes. This actually helped me a lot when spotting cleaned coins now.
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my kids are 9 and 8 and hate coins right now. My son might turn around and get involved as he gets older, I hope so. I want to leave something to someone to keep passing on myself.

panz, did you ever post that 1798? i'd love to see it
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