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Valued Member
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Moderator
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can you give us its measurements and its weight?
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Valued Member
Australia
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looks real to me , well done  |
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Valued Member
 Australia
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Wish I could. A rough measurement is 28.5mm across. What I can tell you is I just checked it against some 51 & 54 comm florins and they all look to have the same diameter.
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Valued Member
Australia
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Im my research I found that the patterns had a nipple on it
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Yeah definitely genuine,as I posted in the other thread.
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Valued Member
Australia
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Yeah definitely genuine,as I posted in the other thread. Thanks, Appelangel, I just had a couple of little doubts I needed to clear up |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Looks genuine enough if its fake gee they are getting good at making them  |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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M<y first thought is it doesn't look good enough (at a quick glance) to be a fake.
Jeff
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Which auctioneer did you buy it from? WE don't need to know the answer, but YOU need to know the value of the autioneer's reputation.
For me, I am also about 85% confident that it is the Real Mc Coy.
My problem is that I used to be fairly familiar with these, but I haven't looked really closely at Centenary Florins for decades.
The usual tests;
Comparative ring tone against a known genuine .925 silver florin.
Weight
diameter.
The pictures show a coin that looks a little 'pasty', but that really means little.
It is good that you have shown nice quality close up pictures.
This where my expertise has become quite rusty, through lack of application with these.
Perhaps some other guy can comment on the fine details you have shown, and pass a better opinion than my own in this regard.
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Valued Member
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Hi Sel Quote:
Which auctioneer did you buy it from? WE don't need to know the answer, but YOU need to know the value of the autioneer's reputation.
I believe the auctioneer has no reputation at all. This is just a country town auction house, they auction mostly what I would call "bric-a-brac". They have a book with a suggested sell price in it (I guess you use it as a guide when placing absentee bids) and they had $400.00 on it. I questioned the authenticity prior to the bid, but he really had no idea. All he said was that a "very old fellow" came in to sell them, and the he felt the old fellow was genuine. So, if I lose out, I'm only losing $150.00 There were other lots that I purchased as well, for example, I bid $15.00 for a bag of 5 florins (4xcommemorative, 1x1963), they had $50.00 on it. The bags of threepence, virtually all GeorgeV, I bid $2.00 per coin, they had $4-5 per coin on them. 12 penny bags, again majority of GeorgeV, they had $40.00 on the, I bid $12.00. My guess is that the auctioneer may have a Mcdonalds book catalogue or similar, with no real knowledge. In terms of the pastiness, the purchases I made all seemed to be coins that came from circulation. My guess is that that client pulled these from circulation, with the view that they may be worth something one day, so the 35comm may have been in circulation close to 30 years. I've checked the 1935com against the other com florins, reeding and diameter are the same for all of them. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Try the ring tone comparison test, as mentioned above, anyway. That won't cost you anything, and you don't need any equipment.
I am 85% sure that it will pass.
From your story, it may well be that your MCF has been stashed away undisturbed in less than perfect storage conditions for decades.
THAT could easily explain it's 'pasty' appearance.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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The finer detail of the reverse is usually the first thing I look at, the line in the front of the riders face goes almost right up to the eyes/top of nose.thespacing of the 4 dots in front of the chin, the overall detail right around the riders head & the spacing of the letters MELB, the detail in the horses mane & tail, the riders hands & feet. Now even though this coin has had quite a bit of circulation all the things I've point out still have quite good detail. The obverse looks a little funny where the cloak meets the rim but I think it's had some sort of PMD there,coin strike ? or other damage in circulation.  |
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Valued Member
Australia
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There's some PMD on it. I also feel that the die may have been towards the end of it's working life life. There's a blob on the star on the crown, and a blob on one of the streamers.Although better than the fake examples I saw in research, some of the detail isn't as strong as I'd like. One thing for sure...I must get myself some scales and calipers! |
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Looks geniune to me
Nice score
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