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 Posted 06/08/2013  09:58 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add monika to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello again
Got home from work this morning and checked a few coins.I found this one.This coin has a split just about all around the whole coin.Is this common?
Thank you



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 Posted 06/08/2013  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What does the outside rim look like?
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 Posted 06/08/2013  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add monika to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop...The outside rim looks normal.
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 Posted 06/08/2013  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This appears to be pre-plating damage similar to a case I reported earlier in Coin World:

http://www.coinworld.com/Articles/V...plating-dama
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 Posted 06/08/2013  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add monika to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mikediamond....thank you for the link .Yes it sounds just like the coin I have.
I guess no value on these?
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 Posted 06/08/2013  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would think it has some value. There's just not a huge fan base for this form of subtle pre-strike damage. If you're going to pitch it, just send it my way.
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 Posted 06/08/2013  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add monika to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mikediamond...A while back I posted a coin similar to this one ,but the split area is much shorter.Im adding a few pics of it here.This is a 1964D.Just wondering if this is the same type of damage as the 1984.....

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 Posted 06/09/2013  08:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here it looks once again like the tops of the letters covered by the apron are stronger and clearer than the bottom portion of the letters. That would be consistent with pre-strike damage. Now, if the tops of the letters were less clear, that would be consistent with post-strike damage. You see, the same kind of damage can occur before or after the strike. In most cases it happens after the strike, outside the Mint. When it happens after the strike the thin apron of metal covers the letters and over time comes to mold itself to the underlying relief.

In your specimen I also notice that the top of the W of WE is flatter and less distinct than the rest of the W. This would be consistent with pre-strike damage because when the apron falls away after the strike, you have a struck-through area.
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 Posted 06/09/2013  09:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mike, you said that the 1984-D is pre-plating damage.Obviously the 1964-D is not a plated coin.So how would you label each coin?.Thanks,
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 Posted 06/09/2013  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Since copper-plated zinc cents can be damaged both before and after plating, we can identify specimens with pre-plating damage and others with post-plating damage. Both forms of damage would be subsumed under the larger category of pre-strike damage. Since copper-alloy cents are not plated, we only have to define one category -- pre-strike damage. On rare occasions it's possible to identify damage as having occurred before or after upset, but that is another story.
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 Posted 06/10/2013  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add monika to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting.I do have a couple pics of a coin that is a bit similar to my other 2.But here I know it is PMD.
Took me a while to find those pics.I misplaced the coin


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Yes, this is post-strike damage. Most of the time this sort of damage occurs after the strike. I never use the term PMD (post-mint damage) because similar sorts of damage occur inside and outside the Mint.
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