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Valued Member
United States
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Hi! I recently received a number of Canadian tokens. Each one has a code with it but I'm not sure what they are. I have the 7th edition Cross book, but the codes do not seem to match anything. The book was tagged for me on page 129, and, at the moment, that's fairly meaningless to me. It's completely possible, of course, that I have no idea what I'm doing and I just don't yet know how to process all this information... The tokens are in black three ring binder sheets with four rows of black holders. Each row is sandwiched between plastic sheets I'm hoping my posting here will yield enough info to get me started. I'm attaching a photo of one token to get me started.    Thanks very much for your help! Paul |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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BR refers to a "Breton" # (catalogue) do a google search for "breton 1894 reprint", there are hard copies and downloadable versions available. (i DL'd a digital version from abesbooks.com for $10) whatever you do, take your time, and sort out exactly what you have before you sell anything (if thats what you plan to do). as with all coins (& tokens) condition is everything - the ones you show are well circulated but still worth something. if there is anything in the book thats appears bright and shiny please post pictures! (and PS: don't clean anything hoping to make them look better!) and  to CCF ! Edited by Wade
06/09/2013 1:34 pm
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United States
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To The CCF!  w Wade. Look in the back of your Cook book there is a cross reference list for catalogue numbers. My question is if CH means Charlton it is wrong yours is m LC-3A1. |
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Of the dozen tokens on the page, eight have both the BR and CH code. None of them correspond to the Charleston numbers so I'm guessing that CH is *not* Charleston. Thanks for those charts - I never noticed them before. I've previously heard the term "fly speck collecting", now I've encountered it. "First palm leaf is forked but left side shorter. Forked but the two sides curved." Wow. There are five LC3's. Does that mean there were five separate dies or did the dies degrade over time? Also, since the seven grades are similar for all five varieties (except for EF-40 which ranges from $75 to $115), would anyone care to take a shot in the dark grade for this token? That'll help me determine what I'm looking at. Wade, "bright and shiny please post pictures". One of the tokens I had assumed was aluminum. I just took it out and now, honestly, I'm clueless. It seems to be an embossed circle of paper sandwiched between two pieces of tin foil.  Any idea what it is? |
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Canada
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the card token looks a lot like ebay # 310681252233 (breton#572), but should be copper/bronze I've heard of some merchant tokens being made of leather, ceramic, & other materials etc but always seen that one in copper/bronze. from breton 1894 reprint: "struck in birmingham for a montreal firm who employed a number of workmen. this was a very large issue" rates Rarity 1 1/2 Edited by Wade
06/09/2013 4:39 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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"tokens being made of leather, ceramic, & other materials etc"
I've seen medals made from all sorts of things as well, we even have one from graphite.
This, however, is paper. Maybe the original owner made a sort of rubbing of someone else's coin?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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could be, the impressions left on the tinfoil would certainly support that.
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Valued Member
United States
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Opinions on condition on the LC3 I originally inquired about?
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The CH number is indeed a Charlton number but from an early era catalogue predating the current Pre-Confederation Colonial Token numbering system.
The BR is a Breton refrence number and the C5 is a Courteau number indicating a variety of the main attribution numbers.
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Valued Member
United States
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That's interesting... Did the current Pre-Confederation Colonial Token numbering system in 1958? That would surely point to how long ago these token labels were printed...
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Canada
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Medaldetector Is right on the money. I would grade the sou a fine plus
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United States
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Keeping in mind that I've never done this before...
Bill, when you say "a fine plus" I don't yet know how to interpret that compared to the Cross book. Are you saying that this piece would fall between F-12 and VF-20, but closer to the F-12?
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