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 Posted 06/10/2013  8:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add cipriani to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,

I would like to ask for help about some expressions in english language that I'm not sure if I understand or not, like "Coin roll hunting" - Is this roll hunting the search for some kind of coins in a large quantity of them?

Thanks to all of you!
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 Posted 06/10/2013  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyJames to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it refers to getting large amounts of coins in rolls and then slowly going through them all looking for rate/old dates and varieties. The definition extends to any kind of searching of circulating coinage even if it isn't specifically in rolls.
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 Posted 06/10/2013  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipriani to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the answer, JimmyJames. Here in Brazil we use to do a lot of "coin roll hunting". That's because the monetary pattern changed a lot through the years. The newest circulating money is "Real" and it started in 1994.
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 Posted 06/10/2013  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The term "coin roll hunting" is North American in origin. In North America, coins are still handled in bulk by being wrapped up in paper wrappers. These "rolls" of coins are then deposited and given out by banks. This rather archaic practice was once used worldwide, but North America is the only place left where banks still use them and ordinary people are expected to roll their own coins.

Here in Australia, as in many other places (such as Europe) coin rolls may still be requested by large supermarket and other retail chains, but in such cases it is the security companies which deliver the coins to their customers that do the rolling; banks require bulk coins to be deposited in resealable plastic bags.

As a result of no longer using "rolls", we Australians have a different slang expression for doing the same thing that "coin roll hunters" in North America do. We call it "noodling".
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 Posted 06/10/2013  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipriani to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Sap for your answer!
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 Posted 06/20/2013  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipriani to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello everyone, another term I would like to learn more is that "double die" or "double dye". Thanks!
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"Dye" is not a coin-related term - it means coloured pigments used to impart colour onto fabric. The cylindrical metallic objects used to strike coins are called "dies".

"Die doubling" is an effect seen on some error/variety coins. A working coin die is made in a similar way to how a coin itself is made, only backwards, by pressing the blank die, a soft steel cylinder, into a hardened steel "hub" which replicates the coin design. This hub is pressed into the blank die several times, and if it becomes misaligned or rotates slightly during this process, the design can be duplicated, or "doubled". The 1955 cent is perhaps the most famous and spectacular example of a doubled die coin variety in the American series.

A similar though less spectacular effect can be caused when a perfectly ordinary die chatters or vibrates as it strikes a coin; this is known as " Machine Doubling" and is not considered a significant error or variety.

The correct terminology is "doubled die" or "die doubling". "Double die" is lazy talk; error and variety experts sometimes get upset when they see people use it or say it, since it is technically incorrect.
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Thank you very much, Sap.
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