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Edited by Aesop50
06/10/2013 11:55 pm
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Welcome Aesop50.
As far as I can tell based on your photos alone, I don't see any red flags as to calling it a fake.
A weight of the coin will tell much.
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Lord knows I hate to disagree with you, v. But comparing to the one die variety of this date, the denticles aren't lining up with the letters on the reverse, or the stars on the obverse, and what really stands out to me, the first 1 in the date seems too close to the 8.
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 Don't worry, I've been known to be wrong before :-) Forum Mom knows this series quite well. Hopefully she'll chime in  swcoin.ecrater.com
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The date was what made me somewhat suspicious. It just didn't look right. The example below is from PCGS coin facts and comparing yours to it I notice the 1 and 8 are too close together, the tops of the 1's are slanted while the 1's on the genuine example are nearly flat, and the style of the 5 is off.  |
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One other thing that strikes me is that the two ones in the date appear to be different. Might this be a genuine capped bust half with the date altered to the very key 1815? Could clinch it if we could find a half that matches in every other respect but the date.
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Is it just me or do the stars seem closer to the rim then the PCGS one?
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Not a chance it's real; there's only one die pair for the date and if the Coinfacts coin doesn't match, that's conclusive. I doubt an altered date; consider the extra spacing that would be require a 2 to appear appropriately-spaced - don't believe there's enough between the 8 and 5 of the pictured coin.
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Thanks so much for the responses everyone, as unfortunate as it is. I've just e-mailed the guy back to see if he will consider either offering a different coin or two and taking back the 1815, or just give me back what I gave him originally. He said he'd inherited the coin, so perhaps he himself didn't realize it wasn't genuine, and meanwhile I didn't have the eye to spot that it wasn't myself. Well, hope we can work something work out. Thanks again, folks. |
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Or Ssuper  swcoin.ecrater.com
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I am not an expert here, but looking at the other evidence in this thread I would definitely agree it is fake. What strikes me is, by whom? This doesn't look like a Chinese fake, it doesn't look like an Eastern European or Russian fake. It's way to good to be a contemporary fake, yet the wear looks real and the tone looks old.
I do not like coins like this to be around.
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Tell you what, though - it's a heck of a good fake.
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Just to throw my voice in and concur: SsuperDdave nailed it.
That's a constructed date on a fabricated counterfeit rather than an altered coin. It's a sweet counterfeit though. :-)
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nice, interesting fake
also, why the heck would you spend this money on a non-certified coin?
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You guys are good. At a glance, I wouldn't have called the coin a fake in those pictures.
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I do believe that this specimen is of Chinese origin. I bought one that's quite comparable for $5 at a flea market. The seller had a number of dates, none of which had a COPY mark and all of which were priced at $5, so I grabbed an 1815. I was "impressed" with the quality of these fakes and use mine to help educate other collectors at club meetings and shows. I've found that most collectors think it's genuine when placed among other fakes.
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Posted 06/10/2013 10:09 pm
