1943 D Steel Variety, Grade And Value

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panzaldi Bedrock of the Community United States 18662 Posts	Posted 06/12/2013 3:16 pm Can anyone tell me what error variety this one is. I know there are several. it looks like the 943 and "D" are all doubled. I cant tell if there is any other doubling. is this an RPM? also grade and possible value if you can. Report this Post to the Staff

John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 06/12/2013 3:39 pm I don't think it is a variety.I think it is Die Deterioration. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
panzaldi Bedrock of the Community United States 18662 Posts	Posted 06/12/2013 3:43 pm being a novice at error coins, how does Die Deterioration cause the doubling if that is what it is? Report this Post to the Staff
Maineman750 Pillar of the Community United States 3592 Posts	Posted 06/12/2013 5:38 pm Try this :http://error-ref.com/die-deteriorat...oubling.html Report this Post to the Staff
Indian1 Pillar of the Community United States 3640 Posts	Posted 06/12/2013 7:35 pm Not a doubled die as mentioned but still a nice example of a steely. Should go MS62 maybe 63 at the best. $1.00 to $2.00 coin. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 06/12/2013 9:39 pm Die wear usually flows toward the rim of the coin. All the area in question is flowing in that direction. Also when the date and mint mark show doubling in the same direction, this is NOT a variety. The coin looks re-processed. (but this may just be the image. Hard to tell) This enhances imperfections on the coins. Keep in mind that this year was using steel dies and steel planchets. The copper planchets are softer and cause less die wear. So given the steel planchets being used, the dies suffered faster and showed excessive wear quicker. Thus all the strange events happened a lot that year. Edited by coop 06/12/2013 9:40 pm Report this Post to the Staff
panzaldi Bedrock of the Community United States 18662 Posts	Posted 06/13/2013 10:39 am Thanks coop. can someone explain what the tell-tail signs are for authentic doubling? I'm assuming that this would be classified as DDD Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 06/13/2013 11:09 am The devices are actually enlarged on a doubled die. creating wider devices, or in some cases extra devices. I like to use side by sides to help show the differences: normal/doubled dies https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ular_GOD.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ular_LIB.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._Regular.jpg Some doubled die are wider on some devices: Note the 9 in the date: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...-001_TLC.jpg Some enlarge/create new devices: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._BIG_ONE.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...-001_TLC.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...n_Potter.jpg These are hubbed onto the the dies when the die was created. The coin was not double struck, the die is actually doubled. When dies wear the outside edges of devices start to flow toward the rim. Thus the "SO CALLED" poor man's doubled dies of 1955: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...M_answer.jpg This type of doubling is what the OP's coin is suffering from. They are not doubled die but die wear. Other examples: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ATION_01.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ATION_02.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...eriation.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...1___1992.jpg Report this Post to the Staff
panzaldi Bedrock of the Community United States 18662 Posts	Posted 06/13/2013 3:04 pm awesome, thanks coop. that explains a lot. Report this Post to the Staff
pennyroll1977 New Member United States 16 Posts	Posted 06/15/2013 07:11 am its a nice strike and looks to be a doubled die. Report this Post to the Staff
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