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Top 100, 1878-P VAM-115 Tripled Blossoms

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 Posted 06/20/2013  12:23 pm Show Profile   Check RK55's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add RK55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Had some time going through my new pick ups. I believe this is the 1878 7 TF Vam-115, Triple Blossoms.
Confirmation from the experts is appreciated as always!


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 Posted 06/20/2013  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm certainly not an expert, more of an enthusiast, but I believe you are correct. Nice variety.
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 Posted 06/20/2013  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I tried so hard to see a Long Nock on the reverse of this coin.
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 Posted 06/20/2013  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Check RK55's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add RK55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah...me too! That would make it a Vam44,R7! The Reverse was the first thing I looked at so I did not have to endure the rapid beating heart if I looked for it last.
Still not a bad find,I believe it's a R-6.....a keeper.
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 Posted 06/20/2013  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 7TF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very Nice! These look to be harder to find in AU or better. I like the color, it is a really nice looking coin. Congrats!
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 Posted 06/24/2013  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both the VAM 38 and the vam44/4a have the long nock, which yours does not, a quick pick up point for the VAM 38 is the doubled and slightly missing nostril, the VAM 115 has a solid nostril area and the Unique engraved feathers on the reverse, which actually look like its missing.
All 4 share the triple blossom ..But the VAM 115 I believe shares with the reverse die of VAM 198..
yours is a VAM 115....
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 Posted 06/24/2013  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the memory Gene. My first 7 over 8 TF is a VAM-38 that when I purchased it I had no idea about VAMs. I pulled it out a couple of years ago to figure out what I really had with little knowledge at the time on how to attribute 78-P's. I started on the obverse and found the tripled cotton blossoms. What a burst of Adrenalin followed by a somewhat large let down. Although not worth nearly as much as the VAM44, The 38 is still a cool die variety.
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 Posted 06/26/2013  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
your welcome dave! and indeed! the 78 series is the foundation of vamming...How I remembered that is astounding LOL....
These all occur do to die pair displacement.....for most of you who know, and for those who do not...with the millions of coins that were to be produced, and a set number of coin presses....and an assumption
of how many coins each die would produce before failure.....
\ THEY DID THERE MATH.....Do to historical need for cash in hand for the public, The amount the mint needed to produce was unlike any
proportion ever needed before.....this is why many states had there own banking currency.....in the mid 1850's and many a "Californian"
did not have US made coins yet they had the gold and made there own currency just as the Banks did to supply the barter system with some kind of "LOCAL" currency.....Personally I believe this came into play do to Europe "LONG HAS USED " "credit"...
IOU's......17th century and perhaps before..but for now lets get back into the US Morgan thing....CASH HAND, US MADE"....came into law to solidify the US currency or lest it befall to "Spanish or who ever"...There only PROBLEM was to increase the number of coins per year to meet the Publics need of cash in pocket to over ride t6he use of foreign coins used as trade in place of missing US Currency.....
So the problem was now they needed to produce 10 times the coins sthey usually produced and also this was a new die design which new designed coins always have a multitude of press issues....
the errors as we find them today are formed from
the making of the dies.....which 1878 was a great learning experiment or should I say a great experience.... There are abundant doubling, trippling and per say for the 1879-s as many as 9 layering's, we so call doubling of a sort...
one thing I will say, as you D..I found early in vamming the attributes of the VAM 38.....Maybe its the photo's given?
honestly the VAM 38 looks doubled compared to the OBVIOUS tripping of VAM 44 and 115.....hands down...I really have to look for the tripling..
ALL in all its a great VAM from a year of minting from where all the errors "invaded our world" OVER 230 errors for this year alone!......."THE BEST year to investigate to understand where and how it all began and were we are now"!!
Hope I didn't bore you all.....G
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 Posted 06/27/2013  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twodsonegf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nope, great post Aladinslamp. 1878 WAS, in fact, a great year for us collectors! I am also with you that the v38 blossoms seem more like doubling that tripling, but still I guess..
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Very Informative! I would know nothing about VAM's had I not joined CCF back in October and I learn a little more each day
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 Posted 06/28/2013  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep a VAM 44 would be something! Something like $5K in this grade. This one looks to be a lock for VAM115, still a nice pick up!
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Thanks guy's.. there is a lot of info that details why such errors occurred during these years, VAM Worlds VAM "101" is a very important read to understand, what is considered normal,. and not....these points are known as errors listed as vams....
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