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Here is the $75 Fugio that I spoke about in another thread. Picked her up today. The detail isn't too bad on this one. Too bad about the obvious problems. Would love to know the variety if anyone wants an early weekend challenge?   |
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I'll guess 10-OO? let's see what p. and v. have to say.
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The only thing not to like about this coin is the big thumbprint on the obverse!
Look at the position of the O in YOUR relative to the NE in business, amida. On obverse 10, a line drawn up from the N should intersect the O; here, it misses it way to the left. Might need a clearer pic to be sure, but I think the ornament between MIND and YOUR being just slightly right of the center of the I in BUSINESS, the low D, and the high R, make this obverse 14. A clearer pic might better show a high last S, though. If nobody can find a problem with 14 being the obverse, I'll give some thoughts on the reverse (14 only being paired with O, X, and H).
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I'll buy the 10 obverse but I'm going with an L reverse :)
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Let me look again p!
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You are right I was too focused on the D over S relationship. Need to learn to look closer at devices you can only kind of see. Thank you for the education.
@jb...I would agree not much to dislike about this one at that price.
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Ok, you're just making fun now, v.
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I'll buy it off of you for 80  |
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Sweet grab!   |
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For that kind of detail, $75 was an excellent price.
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Unfortunately you cannot see the last S in hand.
Thank you all for the confidence in the overall condition of this coin. What you cannot see in the pics, is that the coin is slightly bent. There is a slight impression in the middle of the coin where it appears to have been hit with something long ago causing the bend. If you look on the reverse, you will see some spots that are a brighter copper color. Those are high spots caused by the indentation on the obverse.
What else can I look at in hand to confirm or rule out certain varieties?
Edited by jerseyben
07/05/2013 9:42 pm
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A number of obverses have the ornament slightly to the right of I. 15 has a low U. 16's first S is too far to the left. 17's D isn't lower than the N. 18's first S is also too far left relative to the D. Same with 18 and 22. I really think we're looking at 14, and I do think we see a faint high last S in the pic. Have you figured out the orientation of the reverse yet?
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07/06/2013 3:12 pm
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Here's that narrow link again. That makes this the STATES side of the coin:  Two letters are clear on the band, the A in STATES, and the D in UNITED, confirming the orientation. Once again, the O in ONE can be made out as well:  Presuming obverse 14 (and I think we can), this rules out 14-H, which is a UNITED left/STATES right variety. The remaining reverse possibilities, O and X, both have the O in ONE in exactly this spot, though. The center letters are turned just a little more clockwise for O. If this is the upright for the E in ONE, though:  then I think the position relative to the D makes this 14-O (which is way more common than 14-H or 14-X, anyway). Here's a late die state example:  All 14-O's will at least have the beginnings of the vertical die crack running from the rim into the link below the first S in STATES, though it may be faint. In some, it will emerge and join the band at the S (where yours unfortunately has a divot). Only a few late-state coins will have the second lateral crack. Is a crack visible in hand? Edited by philadelphian
07/06/2013 11:35 am
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I will go with the 14-O attribution. I think that is as close as it is going to get. I cannot see anything in hand that you have not already pointed out in the pics. I do not see any traces of the die crack in hand.
Thank you all for your help!
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