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Edited by SecretGlitch
07/20/2013 6:36 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This is a tough for me... I see LOTS of details, on the reverse particularly. WOW!  I'm going with MS-62. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Beautiful coin that looks choice mint state and not far from gem. MS64.
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United States
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United States
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While I it's a technical grade of MS63 I think the eye appeal on this piece pushes it up another point so I'll say NGC gave it MS64. I know that this coin was in a PCGS holder, and I believe NGC crossed it at the same grade. I can prove it and will do so after the OP posts the grade! I almost bought it too.  It's a beauty in hand! Very lusterous SecretGlitch says! "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440Edited by westcoin
07/21/2013 02:36 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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A beauty, I'm guessing MS-63 on this one.
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Glorious color. I'm seeing "slider" indications on the obverse; AU58 or MS63.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'm in the SsuperDdave camp. I see a little indication on the obv that it saw a little circulation AU58. it is however, a stunning coin.
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Here are 2 more pictures that give a better idea as to the luster of this coin. It's still sort of hard to tell but I'll just say that every surface of the coin is lustrous.   |
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Nice clarification. Looking at the similarity of what I'm seeing across both arms and legs, it comes across more as Mint State than slider. I'll stick with MS63 but 64 wouldn't floor me.
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Now I'm wondering if SecretGlitch got this beauty upgraded into a MS65 holder? I thought it might go myself, but couldn't justify the chance if it didn't. I had it in hand for a few minutes, thought the little ticks on the reverse might keep it from the lofty 65 grade, but if it went up a grade point, then it almost doubled in price! I'm still at MS64 on it. too many tiny ticks to make it I think. The softness on the LIBERTY in the shield and the head are common on this date.  exciting to see this coin again here on CCF - it is a small world after all  "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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This is a really beautiful piece.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pretty toning! I'll go with MS-64.
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A lot of conservative grading I see. NGC actually gave this coin an MS-66. And here's probably their logic behind it:
The coin has very few marks, and the fields are incredibly clean. There's an old bag mark on Liberty's shoulder that toned over, and is very forgivable. There are a few incredibly tiny speck-like hits on the reverse field that are hardly noticeable but apparent at magnification. It also is easy to undergrade the reverse as there's some strong die polishing lines that you need to identify as not being scratches. Finally, there's some minor flyspeck stains that are easy to forgive.
The strike is actually quite strong, and that's easy to read if you look at the reverse. The whole coin is lustrous, but I can see why PCGS gave it a 64. The obverse toning is so heavy that the gem-level luster is noticeably obscured, and for some that's very important in the high gem grades. NGC seemed to care more about eye appeal and cleanliness.
My pictures certainly didn't do it justice, and it's awesome to look at in hand. It's actually no longer in my possession, and I'm not the one responsible for the crossover from PCGS 64 to NGC 66. Whoever did that probably made some good money though.
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Here is the exact same coin I had in hand and graded at MS63 with a push up one point for the eye appeal. I thought it might make a MS65 on a really good day I'm really, really, surprised it made it into a 66 holder, but that's NGC and why I no longer send any coins to them, especially copper. http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...4&lotNo=7796Sold for $440.00 I had bid it up to $412.00 then dropped out. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440Edited by westcoin
07/22/2013 9:18 pm
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Posted 07/20/2013 4:10 pm
Thats all I can say. I am not going to try to guess the grade. 
