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He's Wearing A What !

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Okay so ........
I was wasting another evening searching the world for bronze.
I found a nice Sestertius of Elagabalus.
Hmmm ..... Almost like the one I bought last year I thought
Then I read the "item description"
He's wearing a WHAT !

Now I know there must be some rational explanation but when I (dare I even say it but)
took mine out of its box ..... There it was.

Now I did some research and cannot seem to find this 'thing' except on coins with the "Emperor Sacrificing" reverse.

I know that Elagabalus had some serious 'issues'
and some ancient writers even accused him of certain ..... abominations.

But there must be another explanation ...... somewhere


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he's wearing a flower headband
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It is described as Laureate, Horned, draped and cuirassed.
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Ah shucks
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"Cuirasser and cuirasser", said Alice.
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wait...I'm lost, why is that strange for a roman coin?
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Perhaps a "clever" linguist might be just as helpful as the numismatist.
We may have determined the etymological 'root' of a scatological adjective ?
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It is described as a "horn".
Of course, it does not look like any horn of any Quadruped that I can think of.
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It may be the 'horn' (or tusk) of the extinct killer rabbit
Once known to inhabit the less well traveled parts of the 'Gallic' Provinces.
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Well that's interesting. This ruler was a real winner and it would surprise me that his laureate would include the third horn of a bull. I thought when a bust was described as horned it pertained to "Ammon horns" . I must ask do you know what source describes this as such?

This made me for an interesting discussion. I wonder what the ancient interpretation is and what they would reconize this as....

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ohhhhhhhhhhhh.....now I see, that thing isn't "standard issue" laurel is it?

did you know the last european killer rabbit was slain in britain by the holy hand grenade of antioch?...pictured here held by justinian on this coin from antioch commemorating its creation.

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The "horn" is a bovine phallus which was part of the cult of which Elagabalus was high priest.
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It's the horn of the fabled Jackalope
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No doubt Elagabalus was trying to set a new fashion trend in Rome.
His grandmother the Empress Mamaea must have been mortified.

Its amazing how I could have missed something like this. I bought the coin last Fall and was thoroughly and completely delighted to have snagged it (yeah its another one of those far and few between I can't believe I won it deals). But you might think considering how closely I examined it and photographed it that I would have noticed ..... something odd.
I can't imagine walking down the street and saying hello to someone I know and not asking "Why do you have a ......?"

Maybe down at the 'Union Station' but not here on the 'West Side' of town
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