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A $2 Coin With Ronald Reagan?

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 Posted 08/03/2013  6:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DavidFNYC to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I think there is a case for creating a $2 coin and I think Ronald Reagan would be a good candidate for that.

For many reasons we need to kill the $1 bill and replace it with the billions of $1 coins the government is paying to store in warehouses. Looking to our neighbors to the north a $2 coin makes that all the more feasible since it cuts down on the number of coins one carries in their pocket.

It could also stop the movement among some GOP members of Congress who want to replace Grant with Reagan on the $50 bill!

I am by no means a fan of Ronald Reagan, but I like Grant on the $50 and want to keep it that way.

The economics of the $1 bill just doesn't make sense any longer and a $2 coin negates the need for excessive $1 coins.

I know vending machine operators would welcome this as it cuts down on coins and let's them avoid the haircut the banksters get when they process payments made with plastic.

What's your thought
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08/04/2013 08:22 am
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 Posted 08/03/2013  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doug58s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd vote no... not a fan of either the coin or the $50 idea.
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I just don't like Reagan much.
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 Posted 08/03/2013  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NJ Bob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reagan is A-OK with me but a $2 coin, no, I don't think so.

A $2.50 coin in combination with a $5.00 coin might make more sense so long as the corresponding bills are eliminated.
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 Posted 08/03/2013  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the idea of putting Reagan on a coin.

I could go with a two dollar bill or the dime, but I like
Grant on the $50.00.

Although I am in more favor of taking all the presidents
off coins and putting Liberty back on them
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Colour me completely uninterested. I see no value at all in such a plan.
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Sorry, but THIS is what I feel should go on a U.S. $2 coin:




SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE

This Act may be cited as the "Famous Dogs $2 Coin Act"

SEC 2. DESIGN AND ISSUANCE OF BIMETALLIC $2 COINS FEATURING FAMOUS DOGS OF U.S. HISTORY

(a) Notwithstanding the Authority of the Secretary of the Treasury under the 8th undesignated paragraph of section 16 of the Federal Reserve Act, beginning in 2014, coins in the denomination of $2, shall be issued, and have such designs, and shall be in such form and tenor as the Secretary may select in accordance with this section.

(b) These new "Famous Dogs" $2 coins modeled after Canada's bimetallic $2 coin, a silver colored metal ring around a golden colored metal center, and shall be made small enough to work in vending machines and self checkout machines without having to modify the coin changer machines to take larger coins. The Canadian $2 coin shall be the prototype for the Famous Dogs $2 coins. These new $2 coins shall also fearture partially reeded sections, and partially smooth sections, just like the Canadian $2 coin, to help the blind denomination the new coin.

(c) The "Famous Dogs $2 Coin Act" shall be a 9 year program that shall feature four new obverses of the $2 coin, honoring four different famous dogs per year, to honor dogs for serving man kind for tens of thousands of years, and shall honor and feature such fallen dogs as, fire, police, rescue, military and sled dogs who served or lost their lives, serving man kind, with Balto being the first to be honored. Each honored dog's name and breed, and the words "In God We Trust" shall be stamped into the obverse of these $2 dollar coins, and shall border around the bottom of the "heads" side of these new coins. If the famous dog being honored is not a purebred "Mixed Breed" shall be stamped on the border of the coin.

(d) The reverse of the new $2 coins shall feature three different designs per every three years of the program. The Gray Wolf shall be featured on the reverse of these new half dollars for the first three years, to respect and honor the wild relatives that these dogs came from. And for wolves being the first dogs to serve man kind. "Gray Wolf" and "Two Dollars" shall be stamped on the bottom of the new coins and border the edge of the "tails" side of these new half dollar coins.


(e) The Coyote shall be featured on the reverse of these new $2 dollar coins for the second three years. This will help honor another wild dog relative that provided fur for clothing, bones for tools and jewelry and such to the Native Americans and were a part of Native American agriculture. "Coyote" and "Two Dollars" shall be stamped into the reverse of these new $2 coins, and shall border the bottom edge of the "tails" side of these new $2 coins.


(f) And the North American Red Fox shall be featured on the reverse of these new $2 coins for the last three years. This will help us honor and respect foxes as a dog relative that, like the Coyote, contributed to the Native Americans, providing fur for clothing, bones for tools, jewelry and such and were a part of Native American agriculture. "North American Red Fox" and "Two Dollars" shall be stamped on the reverse of these new $2 coins and shall border the bottom edge of such coins.

SEC 3. DISCLUSION OF "FALSE" FAMOUS DOGS

(a)These new $2 coins shall NOT include or feature dogs, that were famous for being in movies/shows/films, or for being a famous celebrity or presidential pet, etc.with the exception of Rin Tin Tin, who actually served as a real life hero war and police dog before becoming a celebrity dog. The "Famous Dogs $2 Coin Act" shall only honor dogs that were true life serving, life saving, real life heroes, with the exception of the wild dog ancestors of the dogs being featured on the reverse of such coins.

SEC 4. PUBLIC AWARENESS PROGRAM

(a) Within a certain time, the general public, vending, self checkout and other coin-op industries shall be made aware of the new Famous Dogs $2 Coins' release date. Vendors and other industries shall be given time to retool their machines to accept the new "Famous Dogs" $2 coins, should they choose to do so. Public educational information materials shall also be provided to educate businesses, cashiers and consumers about the new $2 coins.

SEC 5. CONVERTING TO A PERMANENT DESIGN

After the "Famous Dogs" $2 coin program ends, the "post-Famous Dogs" $2 coin shall keep the same size, shape and compositions as the "Famous Dogs" $2 coins, and shall feature a famous human figure of U.S. history.

SEC 6. DESIGN RELEASE SCHEDULE:

Year: Dog (Obverse) Service Dog Ancestor (Reverse)
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2014 1 Balto Sled Dog Gray Wolf

2 Togo Sled Dog

3 Fritz Sled Dog

4 Fox Sled Dog


2015 5 Sye Sled Dog Gray Wolf

6 Old Moctoc Sled Dog

7 Tillie Sled Dog

8 Billy Sled Dog


2016 9 Alaska Slim Sled Dog Gray Wolf

10 Rin Tin Tin Military/Police Dog

11 Mattie Police Dog

12 Dolph Police Dog


2017 13 Rosie Police Dog Coyote

14 Wallace Fire Dog

15 Pat Fire Dog

16 Chips War Dog


2018 17 Lex War Dog Coyote

18 Sargent Stubby War Dog

19 Smoky War Dog

20 Sallie War Dog


2019 21 Nemo A534 War Dog Coyote

22 Bamse War Dog

23 Gander War Dog

24 Gunner War Dog


2020 25 Horrie the Wog Dog War Dog North American Red Fox

26 Judy War Dog

27 Just Nuisance War Dog

28 Lava War Dog


2021 29 Moustach War Dog North American Red Fox

30 Trigger (Orginally named after the "N-word" censored out) War Dog

31 Rifleman Khan War Dog

32 Rip War Dog


2022 33 Saba War Dog North American Red Fox

34 Sinbad War Dog

35 Tich War Dog

36 Rags War Dog

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We've had nameless bald eagles, buffalos, and such on our coins and currency before, and now its time for most people who have forgotten that "humans" are NOT the only species on this planet that matters, and I think we need to extend the immotalization onto a coin or bill, to man's closest best friend: the dog. I've found some pretty good choices for certain hero dogs that could go on these coins.

Oh, and why are so many people so bent on getting Lady Liberty back on our coins and currency? She's a ficional nobody, and, she's had her shot, so now its time to move on to newer, better designs. after all, I'd find Lady Liberty to be very boring to see on all denominations of our coins and currency. I would still rather have a failing John F. Kennedy half and Thomas Jefferson $2 bill, than a widely successful Lady Liberty half and $2 bill. I wouldn't even want Lady Liberty $200, $500, and $1,000 bills, and thats pretty bad, coming from me.
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Reagan looks too much like Brezhnev.
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Rin Tin Tin war dog.

Don't think Reagan could be put on a definitive coin. Too many still have opinions either way, about his politics.
Washington also had a political history, but if you wish to find out about that, some scholarly effort is needed.

To be safe for definitive coinage, a past President needs to have passed into American history by at least 50 years. Roosevelt and Kennedy are the exceptions. Both died in office. Current emotional support at the time helped to carry their images onto the coinage. That's why nobody objects to them. If they had political baggage, the Public forgot about that, in their cases.
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Who let the DOGS out (again)?



I read this blog sometimes for the over zealous bloggers that have great ideas, but are woefully ungrounded in the political realities. It's great for a laugh over morning coffee. It's not even worth responding to those zealots.

Re: the $2.00 coin idea, if the $1.00 coin is failing how successful do you think the deuce would fly over? The fly in the ointment is that paper making company that is contracted to the BEP, Crane & Co., in Massachusetts. If you want the $1.00 coin to succeed, you have got to buy them out and shut them down. That is the ONLY realistic proposal.

As for Reagan appearing on the dime or the $50.00 bill, too many people still living today that remember the effects of Reganomics. He is a good candidate for dead president representation on coins or currency. Probably in another 40-50 years, perhaps by that time there won't even be a need for coins or paper bills.
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Yes, this is a pseudo-blog for some "posters" to air their specific political affiliations and aspirations. See the sixth reply above for an example of an overzealous 'blog' type response. Some people have a great deal more time on their hands than is really good for them. ;)
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Who let the DOGS out (again)?


I don't know who let the "dogs" out, but "I" let the cat out of the bag, and "I" let the genie out of the bottle, but unfortunately, he said he had already been let out of the bottle once, and someone used a wish, so I only got "two" wishes, so, being a "lifestyle Furry" and a fanatic about huge aircraft, while I "could" have wished for the anthro fox-woman mate of my dreams, complete, with actress, Sandy Duncan's soft and cute "Vixey voice" from the Disney movie, "The Fox & the Hound" and the heavier-than-air, yet still workable Fortress One Airship from the 4th and 5th episodes of the tv series Disney's "Gargoyles", I decided to take the more "normal" options and wished for the sucessful and wide circulation of the half and $2 bill by 2014, so, expect to start seeing $2 bills folded in your wallets and halves jingle-jangling in your pockets by the end of this year.
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If you want the $1.00 coin to succeed, you have got to buy them out and shut them down. That is the ONLY realistic proposal.

If you buy out and shut down Crane & Co you also lose the five, ten, twenty, fifty, and hundred dollar notes as well.
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Correct, the other currency denominations would soon be massively hoarded and disappear overnight from circulation and we'd go strictly to coins and plastic society, in a similar fashion to Canada's monetary system, even though they still have the larger bills. Thus, the supporters of the DCA have a long uphill battle for the hearts and minds of ordinary citizens on one front and battling the highly organized and highly paid lobbyists representing Crane and other Federal paper suppliers on the other. The winner in this war is going to be electronic technology, i.e., contactless tapping with a smartphone or imbedded computer chip on some kind of wearable device. There will come a day where there will be no coins nor paper money. Not in my lifetime perhaps, but it is inevitable.
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