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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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In the battle against couterfeits,I wonder if it isn't counterproductive to post links to such sites that sell fake Canadian coins.Most of those who view this discussion aren't members here,and I wouldn't be surprised if one or more of those sellers has rung up a sale or two due to this thread.You can say,oh well they would have found them anyways,but the unscrupulous also tend to be lazy and unimaginative.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Valued Member
United States
150 Posts |
Maybe they dont send the copies in slabs i.e its a stock photo?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
807 Posts |
No, they really are producing fake slabs, with information copied from genuine ones.
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Valued Member
United States
95 Posts |
I really think there ought to be a law that all "replica" coins must have that word inscribed on the rim of the coin. Over the years my kids have given me some very obvious replica coin items, like States quarters or a 31/2 legged Buffalo nickel. They are all about 4 inches in diameter and made of steel so there's no possible way anyone could mistake them. But for something like this and the other items found it should be required. I have no problem with someone openly selling replicas with full disclosure. I am concerned about what charlatans would do once they have acquired the replica and try to pass it off as real. |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2889 Posts |
Most of these "coins" are made in China or the far east. I don't think they really enforce much in the way of copyright or fake laws there and that's where most of this stuff is made.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
5324 Posts |
its the job of the major mints of the world, RCM, us mint, Royal Mint, even the china mint to protect its copyrights and the currency itself. They are the ones who have the political power to get Interpol or same agency to stop this counterfeit operations. Even the Chinese mint should not want this kind of operation occurring. I suggest calling your own countries mints and for them to get off there rear ends and protect their own coins, having second thoughts on any further purchases with RCM. |
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Valued Member
Canada
293 Posts |
As an overall view on this. Coin collecting has always taken a lot of work and research to keep on top of things. People like me who thought that the internet would let us become professionals by just being able to quickly find info by searching, are just be awakened to realize that we still have to do a lot of work in order to stay on top of things. I guess that's partly what make it a true hobbly, lots of sweat and tears to get the feeling of a well earned prize.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I really think there ought to be a law that all "replica" coins must have that word inscribed on the rim of the coin. There is a law, it is called the Hobby Protection Act. All imitation numismatic items must be clearly marked "COPY" but the problem is getting other countries to respect a US law that is unenforceable outside of the US. Oversized replicas are exempt and considered to be novelties instead of an imitation numismatic item. |
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Valued Member
United States
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China always said it would defeat the U.S. without firing a shot. Sounds like the U.S. should say enforce this an other U.S. laws or we take back $100.00 for every dollar we owe as cost incurred for enforcement.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Sounds like the big guns are coming out again.........  |
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Valued Member
Canada
457 Posts |
In the first post Gidjit asks if coin collecting is in danger? I think we could be in for a huge upset! I'm not sure if we have the ability to pick out the really good counterfeit coins. The fact that there are so many sellers, flippers, buyers and reseller's on sites like ebay make it impossible to know how a coin gets to Canada. There are only a hand full of people in Canada that can pick out a bad fake, maybe none that can spot a good one  I truly believe all coins will only be worth the price of their base alloy as that is the only thing that can be tested 100% The coins most in danger in our collections are the ones we prize most, they are now and will always be the target of counterfeiters. Time will tell who is smarter Sadly my guess is its the bad guys  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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 I say we do it the Old School way, find 'em and beat 'em! Glenn  |
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
1980 Posts |
i agree with falcon. they CAN make fakes that are extremely hard to tell from the real ones and I think its only a matter of time that we are over run with fakes rendering our collections worthless. even if they pass laws enforce or what ever there will always be people counterfeiting
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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sad thing is if you check feedbacks, some people are buying several lots of coins and bars, so you know they are getting into our system, this can't be good..and god forbid if a well known company was passing these off as real..
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Valued Member
Canada
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Edited by Coinsplus
08/09/2013 01:52 am
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